This is a FIRM request
why do I suck so much at chess?!!!!

Welcome for giving YOU my PRECIOUS TIME.....
No one told you to troll the forums. You don't have to play the martyr.

Welcome for giving YOU my PRECIOUS TIME.....
No one told you to troll the forums. You don't have to play the martyr.

Welcome for giving YOU my PRECIOUS TIME.....
No one told you to troll the forums. You don't have to play the martyr.


Sad but true 😭

I found this thread disheartening. I actually am a horrible chess player and will undoubtedly never reach the level of play of the original poster. She will always be way better than me. That she will always be better than me is not what I find disheartening though. What is disheartening is that if I were to ever take the game more seriously and improve, I fear I wouldn't be happy. Prior to opening this thread, I was hoping I would some day get good enough to be 1500 or 1600 here on chess.com which I am guessing is 1200-1300 OTB (pure guess). I thought I would be content with that but hearing someone at 1800 thinking they suck at chess, it just makes me wonder if I would just be that much more frustrated with myself if I got a lot better.
I also wonder if the OP would think she sucks if she got to 2200 because she cannot quite get over that next hurdle. I didn't read the whole thread so I apologize if I am talking out of turn. In other words, I don't know what her aspirations for the game are, how much she enjoys it, etc. etc. .. but the first post hurt my morale concerning whether I will be happy being a decent chess player at 1500 (online not OTB) or so who can beat most random people. That is all I want from myself.... until I get there, maybe?
lets just admit, that "rating" isn't what brings great happiness.
No matter where you are, you will not be high enough to feel satisfied; and are not as Low as some people.
.... so feel free to aspire to 1500 and feel that this would be a worthy aspiration; even if there are experts/masters complaining about how awful they are at chess

I found this thread disheartening. I actually am a horrible chess player and will undoubtedly never reach the level of play of the original poster. She will always be way better than me. That she will always be better than me is not what I find disheartening though. What is disheartening is that if I were to ever take the game more seriously and improve, I fear I wouldn't be happy. Prior to opening this thread, I was hoping I would some day get good enough to be 1500 or 1600 here on chess.com which I am guessing is 1200-1300 OTB (pure guess). I thought I would be content with that but hearing someone at 1800 thinking they suck at chess, it just makes me wonder if I would just be that much more frustrated with myself if I got a lot better.
I also wonder if the OP would think she sucks if she got to 2200 because she cannot quite get over that next hurdle. I didn't read the whole thread so I apologize if I am talking out of turn. In other words, I don't know what her aspirations for the game are, how much she enjoys it, etc. etc. .. but the first post hurt my morale concerning whether I will be happy being a decent chess player at 1500 (online not OTB) or so who can beat most random people. That is all I want from myself.... until I get there, maybe?
lets just admit, that "rating" isn't what brings great happiness.
No matter where you are, you will not be high enough to feel satisfied; and are not as Low as some people.
.... so feel free to aspire to 1500 and feel that this would be a worthy aspiration; even if there are experts/masters complaining about how awful they are at chess
yea ur right rating and money gives u happiness lololololol. hey look on the bright side now u can play u2000 and get some cash!!!

I'll share some insight that I found out about myself.
I asked myself the same question of why I 'sucked' for a while. Then I realized that chess is NOT a measure of personality. By any means.
I realized that I was playing for the wrong reasons, and once I re-examined that I really loved the game and would rather love the game and be bad than hate it and be good, then my game actually got better as a result. I've met many people who want to achieve 'master' status but hate chess itself. I can say I'm not one of them.
Don't focus on what other people perceive you to be, including your rating. Chess is about the game, not the status.

I'll share some insight that I found out about myself.
I asked myself the same question of why I 'sucked' for a while. Then I realized that chess is NOT a measure of personality. By any means.
I realized that I was playing for the wrong reasons, and once I re-examined that I really loved the game and would rather love the game and be bad than hate it and be good, then my game actually got better as a result. I've met many people who want to achieve 'master' status but hate chess itself. I can say I'm not one of them.
Don't focus on what other people perceive you to be, including your rating. Chess is about the game, not the status.
The problem is that all my motivation comes from a desire to get better, so if I'm not improving, I'm not enjoying the game.

I'll share some insight that I found out about myself.
I asked myself the same question of why I 'sucked' for a while. Then I realized that chess is NOT a measure of personality. By any means.
I realized that I was playing for the wrong reasons, and once I re-examined that I really loved the game and would rather love the game and be bad than hate it and be good, then my game actually got better as a result. I've met many people who want to achieve 'master' status but hate chess itself. I can say I'm not one of them.
Don't focus on what other people perceive you to be, including your rating. Chess is about the game, not the status.
The problem is that all my motivation comes from a desire to get better, so if I'm not improving, I'm not enjoying the game.
uh well u could just go bellow 2000 and play u2000 and win some cash?

thats a bad hang up.
but whether you are the World chess champion or just some Newby 7 year that can barely play a whole game.
the pivotal question remains:
do you really LIKE chess? I mean , not necessarily in just Winning? lots of strong coaches have warned us to not get too hung up on the rating either....
if you are all emo and anxious about the result; how would this inspire your best effort? read widely and you will see many people credit big jumps of rating to being more chillax about the rating.
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I wrote this to a newby player on another thread; and it goes to you too
if this game just torments you. STOP. don't make yourself miserable over something you don't love. OTOH, if there's something you Don't like about this game-- talk to a therapist/ friend to get over it. you can take a better attitude about your life.

BTW, I think #76 is a very common feeling with strong chess player.
you just have to readjust what it means to improve. if you can do something better than you did before- isn't this improvement??
I won't give much more advice. obviously you are out of my league. but we all struggle at time. ( I know I do)- its Love of the game that keeps me playing.

I'll share some insight that I found out about myself.
I asked myself the same question of why I 'sucked' for a while. Then I realized that chess is NOT a measure of personality. By any means.
I realized that I was playing for the wrong reasons, and once I re-examined that I really loved the game and would rather love the game and be bad than hate it and be good, then my game actually got better as a result. I've met many people who want to achieve 'master' status but hate chess itself. I can say I'm not one of them.
Don't focus on what other people perceive you to be, including your rating. Chess is about the game, not the status.
The problem is that all my motivation comes from a desire to get better, so if I'm not improving, I'm not enjoying the game.
Yeah I can understand that... However I also wonder if this is enough to really enjoy anything. There are a lot of walls in chess you can hit and 1900 should be your next one and then 2000. What will happen then? It's all subjective I guess but I don't really know... I feel that if you don't love a game even when you lose then maybe you don't really love it... Everyone including professional players have moments when they lose and talk about how stupid the game they play is or how much they hate it. But sooner or later they calm down and go back to playing because they don't truly dislike the game. But if those feelings don't seem to go away then maybe it's time to take a break or try another game.
Here's a podcast talking about this situation where people realized how good they really are at games. Definitely don't watch the whole thing if you don't want to because it's mostly not on this topic:
[Edit]: skip to 22:59 because I can't embed time stamps. <__<
Otherwise you could give this a go: http://trainers.fide.com/surveys.html
I don't know who this stuff is for but it might interest you. However I do worry that you might be going down the rabbit hole that is improving for the sake of improving and nothing else.
DON'T PLAY CHESS THEN! YOU DON'T HAVE INTEREST? LEAVE IT. BUT PLEASE DO NOT CREATE SUCH A MELODRAMATIC SITUATION..................