Why do People Hate PogChamps so Much?

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Avatar of myusername456456

I've seen many comments with people showing their contempt for Pogchamps. Does anybody know why they post those things so much?

(PogChamps is by far my favorite chess event)

Avatar of jeremiah5262

Cuz they watch ben finegold

Avatar of llama47

Most people like it or are indifferent... it's hard for me to believe you've seen "many comments" showing contempt for pogchamps.

Why do they post those things?

They might not be part of the target audience. If a person doesn't find the games or commentary entertaining, then they're more likely to argue against someone who does.

There may also be some cognitive dissonance involved, and to resolve it it's easier to believe that the fame/money given to pogchamps players is being given fraudulently than it is to believe their hard work (or the hard work of others) is without merit.

I'm guessing those are the two main underlying psychological reasons.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't find it entertaining but realize that different people have different tastes... and there are people who realize that pogchamps players are reimbursed not for their chess, but for their ability to tap into new audiences.

Avatar of myusername456456

Ok

Avatar of brianchesscake

I don't think anyone has an issue with popularizing chess through streaming and other social media platforms, but the way that it's being done by "pogchamps" isn't exactly satisfying to many chess fans. It's a lot like they are advertising chess using celebrities, not for the beauty and complexity of the game itself. It's not surprising to see that the community is polarized to see internet famous people getting more recognition for being associated with chess compared to objectively much stronger players. And the funny thing is that many of these famous people are not even necessarily entertaining, but have diehard fanboys who would follow them no matter what stupid trend they promoted. What "pogchamps" is missing is the passion for chess, and simply replacing it with cheap comedy value.

Avatar of batgirl

I pretty much agree. 

Avatar of Deranged

I don't hate Pogchamps personally, but I can understand why some people might dislike it.

It does seem pretty unfair that random celebrities who hardly play chess are getting bigger prize pools and more spectators than Masters who have devoted their entire lives to the game.

Avatar of Omega_Doom

Pogchamps is retarted.

Avatar of LeeEuler

I don't hate on pogchamps at all, but think it's a little gimmicky. To me it's a little like bringing people into basketball by getting them to watch famous actors play it instead of promoting the best players in the world.

Avatar of llama47
brianchesscake wrote:

I don't think anyone has an issue with popularizing chess through streaming and other social media platforms, but the way that it's being done by "pogchamps" isn't exactly satisfying to many chess fans. It's a lot like they are advertising chess using celebrities, not for the beauty and complexity of the game itself. It's not surprising to see that the community is polarized to see internet famous people getting more recognition for being associated with chess compared to objectively much stronger players. And the funny thing is that many of these famous people are not even necessarily entertaining, but have diehard fanboys who would follow them no matter what stupid trend they promoted. What "pogchamps" is missing is the passion for chess, and simply replacing it with cheap comedy value.

If it's not marketable, then it's not popular.

Avatar of YidingL1

what is even pogchamps

Avatar of llama47
YidingL1 wrote:

what is even pogchamps

Wow a time traveler.

Welcome friend... in this age we have a thing called "google" -- you should look into it.

Avatar of Deranged
YidingL1 wrote:

what is even pogchamps

It's a chess competition where famous Twitch streamers who have never played chess before (known as "pogs") spend a few weeks learning the game, getting coached by grandmasters, then compete against each other in an online tournament with lots of spectators and commentators.

Avatar of ricorat

I don’t hate pogchamps and it can be fun to watch but as someone who puts a lot of work into the game it’s a bit annoying that these people who are rated 600 have lots of people watching where as the 2700+ GMS don’t get as many people watching there games. 

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Deranged wrote:

I don't hate Pogchamps personally, but I can understand why some people might dislike it.

It does seem pretty unfair that random celebrities who hardly play chess are getting bigger prize pools and more spectators than Masters who have devoted their entire lives to the game.

Fair enough 

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Omega_Doom wrote:

Pogchamps is retarted.

Please provide a reason

Avatar of jm9966

just pls dont advertise your blogs.

Avatar of Santoy

I had absolutely zero interest in PogChamps so I didn't watch it.

I was glad when it was over though so that streamers returned to more interesting content.

Avatar of JackRoach

I just don't watch it so I won't get sucked into any arguments about pog champs.

Avatar of doctor_octagon

It would be nice if chess.com and twitch, etc. would promote pogchamp-style competitions with regular people  playing chess (800-1000, 1000-1200, etc.). Perhaps they could be chosen by lottery or something similar. 

I think the chess improvers that make up the membership of this site would be more enthusiastic about seeing hard-working players like themselves duking it out in their own Pogchamps-style competition. It would be a great way to give back to the community and generate some excitement amongst us lowly, hardworking chess.com plebs.