so they be lazy because they can. i mean chess is literally a game about winning how do you think the best became the best?
lol, un-sarcastic answer... by losing 1000s of games.
And that's a quote from Karpov "to become a great chess player you must lose 1000s of games."
(Of course in those days there was no online trash. He meant 1000s of serious OTB tournament games)
what do you think about the people in the 1000-2100 range that play into dry, passive lines, trying to trade everything, going for very drawish positions with their only hope being you mess up?
these types of players are what you seem to be saying masters are, is this true?
these [boring] players are what you seem to be saying masters are, is this true?
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No. Masters are far below professional level. Pro level is top 15 in the world. Even GM is too weak.
Also I said the best way to improve is to lose 1000 (of serious) games... meaning players should fight hard (play dynamic / interesting things) and play to the very end of every game (no early draws just because the position is equal).
Pros play some super boring games sometimes, but it's because it's their job. They're not playing for fun or to get better anymore. If they can't keep their top 10 to top 15 spot they may have to retire. They can't afford to take a lot of risks (literally). Especially because at that level all the other top 10 players are going to meticulously analyze every move they ever make, and look for ways to use your style against you because they also don't want to drop out of the top 10-15 and have to retire... etc.
what do you think about the people in the 1000-2100 range that play into dry, passive lines
They're annoying to play against (although maybe I can't complain too much since I'm on the dry side myself). They also wont improve as quickly I think.
trying to trade everything
Those people are just bad, so they're less annoying, because you can get winning chances against them without much trouble.
going for very drawish positions with their only hope being you mess up?
If it's so easy to draw then you'll have no problem right?
Part of chess is knowing how to fight in different types of positions. Some equal late mid game / early endgame positions can be interesting to press for an advantage.
Because part of winning is not losing. A good player will play to his strengths. Maybe a player is good at endgames, or even endurance. So they will play for a draw from the beginning, hoping to prolong the game and wear down the opponent.
Other reasons, probably already mentioned, are just needing a draw to place in the money (or win the tournament). Or playing someone much better where a draw is a very favorable result.
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ive never understood [why playing for a draw at the top level is popular]
Because top players are professionals... their literal job is to make money by winning tournaments.
4 or 5 wins out of 9 is enough to win pretty much any tournament (as long as you draw the rest).
It's also very hard to win with black... and if white is determined to make a draw, it can be almost impossible for black to win.
Decisive games are rare because, either one player has to screw up, or both players have to agree to allow the position to become doubled edged enough that someone might lose.