Why puzzles often only +5, but -15?!

Definitely agreed. I question the ratings of some puzzles to start, but losing 20 pts per puzzle like 8 times and then getting a streak of 8 gaining 5 each time is ridiculous. There's not even a chance to perform on high rated puzzles because they are super rare.

I customize my rating range to not play substantially weaker players when playing games, why do I have to I get presented with puzzles rated almost 1000 points lower my rating consistently? One bad morning and it's like 5 days to recover.

The code for puzzles seems to be pretty junky: somehow I got a 99 puzzle streak last month and never noticed it? Doubtful.

Let's draw puzzles from a normal distribution or something, yeah?

I hope whoever it is at chess.com reads these forums. IDK if they do, but I'm just so frustrated with these penalties: Like I wrote, +5 for good answers, and something between -17 and -27 on wrong ones. And I'm not seeing *any* correlation of any kind with puzzle rating and penalty or reward. It's just +5 for a right answer, and anything between -17 and -27 for a wrong one.

I deliberately tanked my own rating because honestly, the rating is meaningless when it's just all penalties. Oh well. Sorry for the rant.

I 100% agree. I wish they would use something more like a normal distribution, but what I observed over the recent weeks is a completely different behavior. On the one hand, I get 2/3 of the time "normal" puzzles with like max 500 rating below my own that have a normal difficulty and pass rate.

On the other hand, the remaining 1/3 is more than 800 points below. And those puzzles are A LOT harder than they should be given their rating. Out of 20 puzzles I got today, 7 were more than 800 points below my rating with an average pass rate of 29.8%.

And this is a pattern I had every day over the last month. Its so stupid and demotivating. Why would they dish out the puzzles that are obviously not rated accurately like this. Sure, it is maybe a way to deal with the puzzle rating inflation @Martin_Stahl mentioned, because you likely lose many points and can only gain a few. But come on, that can not be the solution chess.com is aiming for.

I was about to make this same post. Solving one right for +6 but losing 20 for getting them wrong is wildly unfair.

Eh, IDK. If you visit a casino, bet 20 times and lose *every* time, you figure it's rigged and move on. But casinos are smarter than that, so they rig their systems to keep individuals winning just often enough to keep individuals interested and believing, but prevent the populace at large from ever actually coming out on top in the long run.

I think with chess.com maybe they are worried about inflation, but it seems like the penalties blow back really harshly, in which case many players are likely to become risk-averse and avoid new puzzles, and I'm not sure chess.com is interested in *fewer* people doing their puzzles... but maybe they are?

my Requests:

1) show me the rating of the puzzle and

2) allow me to pass on it if i think it is two low

Is there something i can do so the rating of the puzzles show on the screen before i try to solve it?

I've solved puzzles in 5 seconds literally and still only get 5 points. Could be cause the rating of the puzzle is lower, but I also had a 23 puzzle streak so why wouldn't the puzzle ratings get higher? Because either the puzzle ratings aren't getting higher or the point system is out of whack where every single one I get 5 points and when I get one incorrect I get -18.

You are not alone with this. To make it short, yes, the rating system is completely out of whack currently. The puzzles you get are rated so low it makes no difference how fast you solve them. If you haven't tried, you can set the difficulty to extra hard, but for me the problem just remains the same as you've describe. Even on extra hard the puzzles I get are 1.2k below my rating.

I did change the difficulty to hard, not extra hard, but given how I can't tell the difference, I don't think it matters all too much

I can help with that.

Click the quotation marks to do the reply thingy.
Your improvisation was very good though

I think it has to do with MMR

What!!!

Why they don't just give you puzzles that match your rating rather than give you easy puzzles that you might get wrong and damage your rating is beyond me if you're 1800 give me 1800 puzzles if I'm a 1300 give me 1300 puzzles don't slip in a 1300 while I'm at 1800 and watch you go down. It's just stupid if I'm an 1800 give me that level. I used to do about 20 puzzles a day for about three years and I screwed up the whole system and I don't do it any more and I'm no longer A member either

@mattbukramnik:

Since the launch of the new puzzles rating system (explained here: https://www.chess.com/news/view/announcing-new-puzzles-rating-system), you can change the puzzles difficulty in https://www.chess.com/settings/gameplay.

With "Difficulty = Standard", the system proposes puzzles that are too easy (so you lose more puzzle rating for failing in a puzzle than you get for completing it). But if you choose "Difficulty = Extra Hard", the system should propose puzzles close to your puzzle rating (and you will lose or get similar puzzle rating).