It's taken this long for us to retrieve 7-piece tablebases... how long until computers generate 32-piece tablebases? 
Will computers ever solve chess?
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Jan 1, 2019
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Jan 1, 2019
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#6563
a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time
smart57 wrote:
guys computers are computers humans are humans. humans are probably weaker since we can be diverted by psychology
Tell that to Ponz, as he’s unaware of that element in chess, being mainly a correspondence player.
s23bog wrote:
Would you say that the path to a forced win or saved draw is wide, or narrow?
Wide.
s23bog wrote:
troy7915 wrote:
Ponz has pointed out that even if chess is solved a human has no way of checking the solution...He will just have to trust the machine, but he will never know for sure.
We can't know for certain, but after several billion games, with infallible results, we can be pretty close to being entirely convinced.
Still a belief, which leaves doubts behind.
smart57 wrote:
no human brain is actually smarter than computer
Of course, it is: the brain has created the computer and the moment the human unplugs it ceases to exist.
I’d say the computers have humans are just not smart to figure out and understand what a computer understand LOL
s23bog wrote:
I'd say that a forced win might very well be unique, if it exists. There might be about a dozen saved draws. People will probably find a way to put an asterisk by that name, in a book somewhere. They'll find a way to nix it from the great book of chess games ....
You know ... the one written by people living lives.
Have you ever read the Life and Games of Mikhail Tal? I highly suggest it. I have a copy. I officially declared it puublic domain, and posted a copy on the internet somewhere. I have since reposted the link a few times, and no seems upset by my declaration.
Who would be upset by such a declaration?
It is the one chess book I have read from cover to cover (going through every game in his chess career), and I owned and read many. It is by far the best chess book ever written, and I am absolutely certain that Mikhail Tal wanted
Is anyone interested?
Tal’s combinations were refuted by present-day computers. They were incorrect, for the most part. But they paid off against human players for the above-mentioned psychological element.
SantaCruz2017 wrote:
I’d say the computers have humans are just not smart to figure out and understand what a computer understand LOL
Computers don’t understand anything. They just calculate. A computer doesn’t know it’s playing chess.
Jan 6, 2019
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#6572
Computer doesn't care about Chess playing. He has no desirs of this game. Also we don't have to think of that.
Probably
Yes cuz there smart and intelijent
Jan 7, 2019
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#6577
I think that the problem is that no one seems to know how to program a computer to solve the problem. I mean there are only so many combinations of moves.
Jan 7, 2019
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pawn8888 wrote:
I think that the problem is that no one seems to know how to program a computer to solve the problem. I mean there are only so many combinations of moves.
Umm, it's very easy to program. We already have it solved up to 7 pieces. They're called endgame tablebases.
The problem is you need technology that we can't even imagine yet to solve the whole thing.
Or really, really large amounts of time.
guys computers are computers humans are humans. humans are probably weaker since we can be diverted by psychology