You should only be allowed to promote a pawn with a piece that has been captured

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Deadmanparty wrote:

I think assigning gender without regard to chromosomes is pretty stupid.  So in chess there is no gender to pieces.

Not all languages work as simple and vague as English though, but even in English the King is male and the Queen female.

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Nick_Aris wrote:
Deadmanparty wrote:

I think assigning gender without regard to chromosomes is pretty stupid.  So in chess there is no gender to pieces.

Not all languages work as simple and vague as English though, but even in English the King is male and the Queen female.

Actually, the queen is called queen in many countries (not all) for some very specific political reasons that happened more than 500 years ago in Spain. In other countries, it is still called vizier/warleader/general as it was called before. Pretty unbelievable that it became widespread. In my opinion, it is extremely dumb (although not as dumb as calling the rook a rook).

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The queen may be called the queen due to an archaic political position, but in actuality the piece has no gender.

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Deadmanparty wrote:

The queen may be called the queen due to an archaic political position, but in actuality the piece has no gender.

It is only in English and similar languages that gender is limited only to persons. What you would consider 'it' in English actually has a gender in many languages.

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Why assign gender to a piece of material?  Seems stupid to me.

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magipi wrote:
Nick_Aris wrote:
Deadmanparty wrote:

I think assigning gender without regard to chromosomes is pretty stupid.  So in chess there is no gender to pieces.

Not all languages work as simple and vague as English though, but even in English the King is male and the Queen female.

Actually, the queen is called queen in many countries (not all) for some very specific political reasons that happened more than 500 years ago in Spain. In other countries, it is still called vizier/warleader/general as it was called before. Pretty unbelievable that it became widespread. In my opinion, it is extremely dumb (although not as dumb as calling the rook a rook).

Naming of the pieces is an interesting topic.

In Greek, we have the King male and the Queen female. Bishops are army officers male. Knights are horses male, more poetic, formal, archaic or "it horses" which is something between common and neuter. Rooks are towers male. Pawns are either pawns (it) or more correctly soldiers male.

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I doubt that the people who came up.with the names of the pieces believed they were creating a transgendered world.  Call be crazy, but such a belief is just idiotic as far as I am concerned.

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Deadmanparty wrote:

Why assign gender to a piece of material?  Seems stupid to me.

Why build rectangular jail cell buildings when we can have a baroque or rococo palace?

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Deadmanparty wrote:

I doubt that the people who came up.with the names of the pieces believed they were creating a transgendered world.  Call be crazy, but such a belief is just idiotic as far as I am concerned.

I 'm sorry, I don't understand that comment. What do you mean?

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That male pawns can become a female queen.

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Deadmanparty wrote:

That male pawns can become a female queen.

Sure they can, but my brain cells are jumping off the edge of my brain into oblivion refusing to witness such an unholy act.

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I have no problem with promoting because I do not assign sex to pieces.  I doubt anyone coming up with the rules believe you should.

 

Your issue is based on your assumptions.

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Deadmanparty wrote:

I have no problem with promoting because I do not assign sex to pieces.  I doubt anyone coming up with the rules believe you should.

 

Your issue is based on your assumptions.

It is not my assumption. It is the language. Fun fact in Italian, Spanish and French the rook is the tower which is of female gender. The unconditional promotion is only part of the effort to speed up the inevitable checkmate. Thinking of it a pawn cannot become a rook either. It is illogical. It can only be promoted to knight or bishop. Otherwise, you have to accept our point that a pawn can be traded for only a captured piece in order to become queen or rook as well

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It is your assumption based on the words used.  Sorry, chess is not a rpg.

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yes i would love to promote porn to school teachers

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Deadmanparty wrote:

It is your assumption based on the words used.  Sorry, chess is not a rpg.

No, it is your assumption based on the words that you use. Indeed, chess is not an rpg, it is the representation of a real life structured army.

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No, it is not a representation of a real army.  If you think so, then try fighting a war where each side can't move until the other side moves.

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In how many armies is the queen the most powerful person?  Pretty wimpy knights.

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RetiredImbecile wrote:

How about this, a queen can promote to a pawn, and then the next move it can promote to a knight. It makes sense since it came from India and they have reincarnation in Hinduism.

It could work, if it wasn't a christian army. The King is christian, logically his Queen as well.

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Deadmanparty wrote:

In how many armies is the queen the most powerful person?  Pretty wimpy knights.

Many empires were ruled by empresses and kingdoms by queens.

In fact, between 1480 and 1913, Europe’s queens were 27% more likely than its kings to wage war, according to economists Oeindrila Dube and S.P. Harish.