help me please

Sort:
DeathScepter

Well, the first thing you need to do is check to see what your, and your fathers pieces, are doing. Are all of your pieces reaching their full potential? Are there any weaknesses in your own camp that you can repair, or any weaknesses in your fathers position that you can strike at? You should seek guidance to get better at chess, not answers.

JG27Pyth

Are you sure you did the diagram correctly? Is your dad down a full rook? If it is correct you should have a clear path to victory. You should constantly simplify (get material off the board) to make the most of your material advantage. Eventually your extra rook will be crushing.

Your dad's position is full of problems. Dad has attempted an attack but with just a N and B -- it isn't enough to get the job done and those pieces, particularly the B, are vulnerable. His back rank is weak. His dark square bishop and his rook aren't doing anything.

If I were your dad I'd move Bf4 (hopefully I'm not missing something big): It double attacks (discovered attack on your B and attacks the pawn on c7) it lets the rook defend the back rank, and it activates the B and opens the way for the rook to enter the game.  It also subtly defends the Bishop on h7. If you try to trap his Bishop with g6?? He plays Be5#!

After Bf4 you should probably just play Bd6 where your bishop and pawn defend each other and you forcing his Bishop to move again to avoid exchanging. After that you just want to bring your N and R into the game.

If your dad makes a dumb move, like Be4, you should move Re8 (which pins the bishop because you threaten Re1#).

You should probably resist the temptation for the moment to play f6 chasing away his N from defending the Bishop because it leads to complications you don't need after he replies Ne6. Get your N and your a-Rook involved and simplify whenever possible and you should win this game.

bigmac30

your dad is in a bit of a mess idealy he would move the bishop to e4 but its tricky if Bishop e4 then rook e8 f3 to trap bishop  and stop mate bishoap a4 followed bishop c6 it is totally won for you

VLaurenT

Think by yourself ! Smile

TheOldReb
tonydal wrote:

So...apparently you're trying to cheat in a game against your dad...which for some reason you're playing by correspondence or something (so you've had time to enter this post)...

Seriously, just play your own moves and learn something about the game (instead of continuing in this vein).


 My thoughts exactly !  Its bad enough to cheat but against a family member !?? My goodness !  Are kids taught today that its ok to cheat ?  It seems that way to me.....

MM78

ask Dad to buy Fritz 12 for your birthday.  Seriously you would cheat against your own Dad???

Crazychessplaya

The request for help is disgraceful. Does your dad cheat on you? I hope not. Try to beat him on your own, and analyze the game afterwards.

goldendog

Everyone's scolding this kid lol!

hackattack

how on earth did you manage to get the time to post this up while playing against someone OTB? (I'm assuming it's otb)

JG27Pyth
Reb wrote:
tonydal wrote:

So...apparently you're trying to cheat in a game against your dad...which for some reason you're playing by correspondence or something (so you've had time to enter this post)...

Seriously, just play your own moves and learn something about the game (instead of continuing in this vein).


 My thoughts exactly !  Its bad enough to cheat but against a family member !?? My goodness !  Are kids taught today that its ok to cheat ?  It seems that way to me.....


Oh my word! Cheating? He asked for help against his Dad... and as a Dad, let me say: You aren't allowed to cheat against anyone, except your Dad! Do you people have children?

It's not a tournament, it's not rated, it's a friendly game against Dad ... is there any game on earth more appropriate for learning and instruction? If this kid were really bent on "cheating" don't you think he'd go about it a little more stealthily? Apparently I'm outnumbered, but I find the moralizing here silly and not encouraging of anything positive.

Elubas

I don't think dad would appreciate the cheating. He should ask at least.

JG27Pyth
Elubas wrote:

I don't think dad would appreciate the cheating. He should ask at least.


Is it really cheating? That's not a rhetorical question, I'm soliciting opinions... in my honest and sincere opinion I wouldn't call asking for help analyzing the position in an adjourned family game with dad, cheating... I'd call it research, initiative, and competitive enthusiasm... obviously it's not allowed in a more formal situation, but this isn't a formal situation. I very sincerely think the kid gets the benefit of the doubt. I just apply it to myself and think, if my kid goes to the internet to research a chess position for help in a game against me -- would that bother me? Uh... I worry about my kids a lot... and they aren't teenagers yet.. I can tell you right now, this is not high up on my list of fears!  Indeed, it's on my list of hopes.

Isn't this exactly like an old-fashioned adjourned game? Was that cheating, when players researched with their seconds during adjournments in the old days?

Elubas

I don't think asking a question here is clever and yes it seems rude to just ask for advice on someone who wanted to play the game against just one person, not everybody on these forums. I mean considering it's unrated, this isn't terrible but seems to be a bit rude. I wouldn't like it.

sss3006

maybe dad is a rook down because of posts like this :-) and replies to such posts :-)))

bigmac30

the game was probly played the boy is a bit confused me tbhinks yaaahhh

meiklejohn

i played this game with my dad 1 mouth ago and i won i just put this up so that i would see what i could of done beter

masteryoda

NO I CANT HELP YOU LIVE WITH IT

THERE IS NO HELP IN THE WORLD YOUNG BLOOD

THEY NEVER HELP YOU.

NEVER WILL HELP YOU

ITS A HARSH, UNFAIR WORLD

EternalChess

Is it me or did the owner of the post got banned?

I dont see his first post at all.. what was his name?

Benjiboy

I remember a book called "how to beat your dad at chess". You could read it ...

EternalChess
tonydal wrote:
SerbianChessStar wrote:

Is it me or did the owner of the post got banned?

I dont see his first post at all.. what was his name?


meiklejohn. He shows up now on #19 (and it turns out that it was an old game--bigmac was right).  Quite possibly masteryoda's WORDS OF DOOM spooked him somewhat.


lol thanks, i saw that post and im liek hm.. it sounds like he could be the OP but i got confused.. if you were to delete your first post, wouldnt it have said [COMMENT DELETED]?, so then i thought that that person wasnt him