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shomaks

Could you please look at my game on live chess against ''romar27ph" played 12.1.2009 and explain me how is it possible to be finished like drawn - insufficient material. Is it a mistake or I don't know all the chess rules. I think I should won this game because my oponent had no any time left.

shakje

Looks wrong

Hydroxide
shomaks wrote:

Could you please look at my game on live chess against ''romar27ph" played 12.1.2009 and explain me how is it possible to be finished like drawn - insufficient material. Is it a mistake or I don't know all the chess rules. I think I should won this game because my oponent had no any time left.


I haven't taken a look at the game but I'm going to assume that with the pieces you had left you wouldn't have been able to checkmate him anyway.

erik

and how exactly would you win that game? :D

it is a draw because you don't have any checkmating material.

ThunderMoose

You can't win on time if you don't have any checkmating material (as Erik mentions)

likesforests

A lone K cannot checkmate K+R+B+P, so you have insufficient material to mate.

ThunderMoose
likesforests wrote:

A lone K cannot checkmate K+R+B+P, so you have insufficient material to mate.


I think Shomaks thought he won when his opponent ran out of time

forkypinner

I have never encountered this scenario.Fascinating,I'm assuming it's a rule I was entirely unaware of. I'm going to set up such a situation on Fritz and see what happens. 

awesmond

weird rule. shoulda won on time

forkypinner

Just says time when the clock expires(in the clock pane).

cuak2000

brrr, finally I understood that shomaks was white!

I thought that he was the black player so it didn't make much sense to me :S

Anyway, I think it's a perfectly sensible rule that you can't win by time if you haven't got the material to mate

Eye_of_the_dragon
awesmond wrote:

weird rule. shoulda won on time


 :) no dude this is really a very logical rule

why should one side win when it has no chances of mating the opponent

time is part of the game but still time is not the essence of chess

what really matters is the position on the board

likesforests

shomaks>weird rule. shoulda won on time

It's a common rule, also used by the USCF and FIDE. Most players don't want wood-pushing to win. If it's impossible to win on the board, you don't win.

shomaks

Thank's guys, I understand now and  it is logical rule.Wink

TadDude

Here is the rule in the FIDE Laws of Chess.

6.10

Except where Articles 5.1 or one of the Articles 5.2 (a), (b) and (c) apply, if a player does not complete the prescribed number of moves in the allotted time, the game is lost by the player. However, the game is drawn, if the position is such that the opponent cannot checkmate the player`s king by any possible series of legal moves, even with the most unskilled counterplay.

awesmond
Eye_of_the_dragon wrote:
awesmond wrote:

weird rule. shoulda won on time


 :) no dude this is really a very logical rule

why should one side win when it has no chances of mating the opponent

time is part of the game but still time is not the essence of chess

what really matters is the position on the board


good pointLaughing