In order to pay their bills, Chess.com either has to allow adds or else charge a membership fee to all of its members. Imagine the outrage if Chess.com suddenly said "no more free memberships".
Anyone who wants to avoid the adds should sign up for a premium membership.
That's all just lies and you know it.
Advertising isn't the lifeblood of everything under the sun you know. Remember YouTube used to be ad free? Ads is something they INTRODUCED. The boardroom execs at Chess.com or YouTube weren't running around trying to beat the clock a la Jack Bauer to find ways to save their company before it went under you know. Ads weren't some last resort to prolong these sites existence you know. Advertising isn't to Chess.com as the heart is to the biological organism. Advertising is to chess.com and YouTube as earrings and chains are to the biological organism. That is, they are absolutely NOT NECESSARY to its survival. They are merely a lucrative sideline bought for a slice of integrity, performance and customer satisfaction.
"Anyone who wants to avoid the adds should sign up for a premium membership"
Don't you find it disgusting knowing that companies know full well how invasive and irritating ads are and so use their annoyance factor as a lever to try open your wallet with! 'Pay us money and these ads will go away'
People who employ such manipulative tactics are amongst those LEAST likely to get money off me.
I could be wrong but I think ads have been part of the site for a long time, probably since the beginning. For sure since 2009 when I joined the site.
If it didn't help pay the bills (server costs, bandwidth, employees) then it wouldn't be done. If they thought they could generate more revenue without ads, they would do that.
bb_gum234 wrote:
You seem to know a lot about business.
Erik made chess.com the #1 chess site. Lets see your business resume, I'm sure it's quite impressive.
Are you saying the chess.com execs WERE running around like Jack Bauer trying to beat the clock to save chess.com?
People who employ such manipulative tactics are amongst those LEAST likely to get money off me.
Ads weren't even on my radar when I upgraded. Access to unlimited tactics, Chess Mentor and videos were why (and auto-vacation to a smaller extent). The incentive is to get access to added features. Removal of ads is also good but wasn't the deciding factor.
" Martin_Stahl wrote:
dannyp215 wrote:
Don't you find it disgusting knowing that companies know full well how invasive and irritating ads are and so use their annoyance factor as a lever to try open your wallet with! 'Pay us money and these ads will go away'
People who employ such manipulative tactics are amongst those LEAST likely to get money off me.
Ads weren't even on my radar when I upgraded. Access to unlimited tactics, Chess Mentor and videos were why (and auto-vacation to a smaler extent). The incentive is to get access to added features. Removal of ads is also good but wasn't the deciding factor."
Yeah, but the fact that they knowingly leverage its nuisance factor in an attempt to drive sales puts me right off. I bout a chess24 subscription and cancelled chess.com. I wouldn't buy chess.com again because of all that sh*t
And that is your choice. I never had a problem with the ads. Not a nuisance at all. I understand that isn't the same for everyone. You go where you feel most comfortable.
Meaning?
Ads weren't even on my radar when I upgraded. Access to unlimited tactics, Chess Mentor and videos were why (and auto-vacation to a smaller extent). The incentive is to get access to added features. Removal of ads is also good but wasn't the deciding factor.
Avoiding ads was not my main motivation either. I upgraded for the ability to have auto-vacation and for unlimited archiving of my games -- I have access to the pgn files for all of my games going back to day 1. The videos and tactics are a nice bonus too.
Since the site's engineers need a paycheck to pay their bills and feed their children, I don't mind paying for these services. Unlike some people who apparantly feel entitled to freely benefit from other people's uncompensated labor.
How do I freely benefit? I obviously don't have access to the same things that you do, so how am I benefiting freely? Your point is moot.
Besides, none of that addresses the main thrust of the point which is that chess.com and other sites like it, lack integrity for pushing unwanted ads upon their sites visitors because of their greed.
The world doesn't grind to a halt if advertising goes away you know
The world doesn't grind to a halt if advertising goes away you know
The world doesn't grind to a halt by seeing ads either. Or paying $29 a year (not including exchange rates) for the lowest premium membership.
But you do freely benefit from the site, or can. You don't have to pay one penny. The thing is, when you signed up, you knew there would be ads. If you didn't want them, you didn't and don't have to play here. Or, you know, there are the other options mentioned 
Could be something relatively simple as mentioned in this article:
From that link at support.chess.com:
"Here are some things you can do to minimize the risk of disconnects while you play:
1. Use a trustworthy browser: Chrome or Firefox - not Internet Explorer"
While it's true that IE has its problems, to label the browser made by the biggest software company in the world "not trustworthy" tells a lot about how seriously should we take that support info.
Prior to last few versions of IE, that was a much more accurate statement.
Can someone explain to me why my thread's title was changed? It originally read "Lag gg ggg gg, it's a problem" not 'Lag, it's a problem'.
...Possibly a change by staff or a moderator.
Though, it had a few more g's in it (as can be seen in the URL):
lag-g-gg-gggggg-gg-its-a-problem
Internet Explorer is a reliable way to attract viruses, worms, and trojans. It also can be used to download a better browser.
Their integrety for running a site that costs them money so they are trying to defray some of their costs? Sure, some sites run completely free without any ads but not all do. If the business model isn't working, it will change or the site will lose customers.