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MartinJaeggi

I know such a guy who delays games, because he wants to play only a few strong positions by time and not a lot of in the same time. So he uses the  three days for simple moves in the opening, because he have at the same time some time spending positions, and he wan't to get more of them. It's a strategy to have always enough time for the interesting and time consuming games, step by step. This can be an important circumstance in tournaments.

paoloj100

The secret to "Whirligig" tactics is in his name. Got you in a spin. Sealed

brunojust

That Wirligig I wrote about, after making one more move having come back from his second vacation, is now on vacation again! You can't tell me that his behaviour is not obstructive, and it is unsportsmanlike. Read my three posts to get a picture of this fellow.

Greenatic
brunojust wrote:

That Wirligig I wrote about, after making one more move having come back from his second vacation, is now on vacation again! You can't tell me that his behaviour is not obstructive, and it is unsportsmanlike. Read my three posts to get a picture of this fellow.

At this point, it is obstructive, and most likely unsportsmanlike (he/she could be having a family emergency, perhaps?  You have to give him/her the benefit of the doubt.)

On the plus side, he/she only has four days of vacation left.  After he/she runs out, you won't have to deal with the vacation use.  Then, he/she can use no more than three days per move.

Patience is a virtue.  I understand this is frustrating, but you only have four days left!  *tries to smile*

ivandh

If I were having a family emergency I would let my opponents know and either stay on vacation or resign.

All this "you signed up for it" is BS. When I start a game, I expect that it may take up to 3 days for a move, but it is unreasonable to expect that every move will take 3 days. The lack of an official rule prohibiting it does not make the behavior less childish.

All that said you can just start up a new game.

brunojust

Thanks ivandh.

waffllemaster

I haven't played many CC games, but one guy started to wait till the last day to move when he realized he was lost.  So to be funny I decided to wait till the last day too...

My very next move I lost on time because I remembered a day late! Laughing

Anyway, don't take it too seriously.  Like others said start a new game.

TitanCG

Has anyone had this "problem" when they were losing?

gsdfgfs
ivandh wrote:

If I were having a family emergency I would let my opponents know and either stay on vacation or resign.

All this "you signed up for it" is BS. When I start a game, I expect that it may take up to 3 days for a move, but it is unreasonable to expect that every move will take 3 days. The lack of an official rule prohibiting it does not make the behavior less childish.

All that said you can just start up a new game.

If you believe the moves should happen quicker, why wouldn't you do a 1 day/move game and then if someone needs the extra days at some point they can take vacation?

 

Seems silly to pick 3 days/move and then be shocked when that happens.

brunojust

The response I appreciated most was the one by ivandh. People who want to give a clear and rational response are rare. Most want to give me advice, or want to blame me in some way; or, make remarks that show they can't get their heads around what is happening. A few are even a little sarcastic in their attempts to be funny. Thus, I am not surprised that occasionally I come across the type of fellow I've named. Each in his way is trying to be helpful, but, sometimes, unfortunately, one gets in one's way even when trying to do good.

ivandh
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ivandh wrote:

If I were having a family emergency I would let my opponents know and either stay on vacation or resign.

All this "you signed up for it" is BS. When I start a game, I expect that it may take up to 3 days for a move, but it is unreasonable to expect that every move will take 3 days. The lack of an official rule prohibiting it does not make the behavior less childish.

All that said you can just start up a new game.

If you believe the moves should happen quicker, why wouldn't you do a 1 day/move game and then if someone needs the extra days at some point they can take vacation?

 

Seems silly to pick 3 days/move and then be shocked when that happens.

You have to make a move in all active games to put yourself on vacation, so that doesn't work if something comes up and you need to put things off for a day or two. The 3 day control is really handy for that.

Have you ever had a game where every single move occurred at the last minute? Seems silly for your expectations to widely differ from years of practical experience.

gsdfgfs
ivandh wrote:
Mediocrities a écrit :
ivandh wrote:

If I were having a family emergency I would let my opponents know and either stay on vacation or resign.

All this "you signed up for it" is BS. When I start a game, I expect that it may take up to 3 days for a move, but it is unreasonable to expect that every move will take 3 days. The lack of an official rule prohibiting it does not make the behavior less childish.

All that said you can just start up a new game.

If you believe the moves should happen quicker, why wouldn't you do a 1 day/move game and then if someone needs the extra days at some point they can take vacation?

 

Seems silly to pick 3 days/move and then be shocked when that happens.

You have to make a move in all active games to put yourself on vacation, so that doesn't work if something comes up and you need to put things off for a day or two. The 3 day control is really handy for that.

Have you ever had a game where every single move occurred at the last minute? Seems silly for your expectations to widely differ from years of practical experience.

Honestly I would never choose a time control that I wasn't comfortable with being used. I wouldn't choose an 45|45 live game and then complain that the game took 2 hours to finish just like I wouldn't choose 3 day/turn and then complain that someone was taking 3 days to move. That was the amount of time I agreed to them having.

 

Just seems like the solution is really as simple as only playing time controls you're comfortable with. Has always worked for me in life, but then again I'm not surprised when someone uses their time.

 

You can also look at a person's average time per move in online chess before you play a game with them. That should give you an indication is they take longer then you'd like.

Dadnavy71

When you play some people, they make a move and then wait for their next move, to appear in a dream maybe???

Dadnavy71

Brunojust I guess my last you might consider bad taste. The more important aspect is it seems like people who want to learn to play fast, another skill to consider is how to hold the interest in the game, utilize skills to determine quickly your thoughts, over an extended time frame. It is skill you could view as needed. Some day you might yourself wanting or needing the times offered. Once you view things differently you will find yourself viewing things differently. (heard that from a co-worker so don't know who to attribute it). Have fun.

Greenatic

Why is this such a big deal?  At the time of this post, the opponent only has 3 days, 12 hours of vacation time left.  How about a little patience?

After the game, you never have to play this user again. 

rickjust

you made an agreement , make the agreement your own .now play.

brunojust

Hi Dadnavy: 'When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change' Wayne Dyer. It works, actually. I chose to look at things in this way. The result has been nearly forty posts and a whole lot more verbal contact with people than would otherwise have occurred. Since I am a 'need for affiliation' person (see David McClelland, psychologist), this is something I like.

Dadnavy71

TY brunojust for the information on the quote, I will look both people people you list in your post. I always tolerate the views and thoughts of others but adopt the good ones.

brunojust
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MathBandit

Chill out dude. He has a grand total of 3 vacation days left. I don't think those will last him another 18 months.

What most people here have told you is spot on. If you play a game with 3 days/move, and your opponent takes 3 days/move, there's nothing to complain about. If your opponent uses all his vacation time, there's nothing to complain about. I was playing about 20-30 games a few months back, including multiple tournaments, and took a vacation of just over 2 months from Correspondance Chess games. Did I tell each of my opponents why? Nope. Was I active on the site during that time? You bet. But that's why my vacation is for my use. Because I can use it whenever I want, for whatever I want.

tl;dr Don't play CC if you're not willing to have a game last months.