Threefold repetition BUG?

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https://www.chess.com/live/game/73002836867

Hi everyone

Could someone explain to me why threefold repetition drawn didn’t happen in this game?

Did the same move 6 times in a row and nothing happens, am I missing something or is this a bug? Nb: not the first time this happens…

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enzomunari wrote:

https://www.chess.com/live/game/73002836867

Hi everyone

Could someone explain to me why threefold repetition drawn didn’t happen in this game?

Did the same move 6 times in a row and nothing happens, am I missing something or is this a bug? Nb: not the first time this happens…

Threefold repetition is about the same board position being repeated three times.  It is not about a single player making the same move back and forth.  If the game could be drawn just by moving the same piece back and forth, then every game would be a draw happy.png

Read more about it in this official article: https://www.chess.com/terms/threefold-repetition-chess

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Ok thanks

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Someone explain how this position after white #66 turn is NOT threefold repetition?

https://www.chess.com/game/daily/524340403

after White #60, Black #62 and White #66 same position, the pieces occupy b5/b6/b7 it is about as clear to see as any arrangement can be??

Thanks for checking whomever... but seems a clear error.

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pzrn0675 wrote:

Someone explain how this position after white #66 turn is NOT threefold repetition?

https://www.chess.com/game/daily/524340403

after White #60, Black #62 and White #66 same position, the pieces occupy b5/b6/b7 it is about as clear to see as any arrangement can be??

Thanks for checking whomever... but seems a clear error.

Because it wasn’t the same player to move on each occasion.

(I haven’t looked at the position as you answered your own question)

Avatar of pzrn0675

so Smart Fellow why not call it "Three fold repetition with same side to move" rule???

I looked at the FIDE language and honestly did not catch that.

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Jesus H. Christ... same player to move.. thank you.

Avatar of Alramech
pzrn0675 wrote:

so Smart Fellow why not call it "Three fold repetition with same side to move" rule???

I looked at the FIDE language and honestly did not catch that.

In case anyone is interested, I decided to refresh myself on the official wording in the FIDE Laws of Chess about what constitutes the "same board position".


From Article 9.2:

Positions ... are considered the same, if the same player has the move, pieces of the same kind and colour occupy the same squares, and the possible moves of all the pieces of both players are the same.

Positions are not the same if a pawn that could have been captured en passant can no longer be captured in this manner. When a king or a rook is forced to move, it will lose its castling rights, if any, only after it is moved.

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Yeah and the conditions have to be the same, so if it was threefold rep with the same player to move, but on the first iteration someone could castle or do en passant, and after that they couldn’t, it’s not threefold rep. 

So it would be quite a long name for the rule if it encapsulated every subtlety :-)

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Yeah sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and sometimes repetition is not repetition. Thanks for speedy reply, sincerely. It was not a such a difficult position for white (my opponent) to edge out my K, eventually he found an opportunity and pushed both his p and K...