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I was out of the country on extended work and had to go to timeout, now i cant join any tournaments with s ratio over 10%. What can i do?

Avatar of ivandh

Play more games or wait 90 days.

Avatar of TheMouse2

Or you can organise your own tournament and raise the maximum timeout% from the default of 10% to something allowing you to enter

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dcowboy69 wrote:

I was out of the country on extended work and had to go to timeout, now i cant join any tournaments with s ratio over 10%. What can i do?


You wait 90 days. It is almost impossible to play your way out of a timeout problem. Your non-timeout decisions fall out of the 90 day window and this can increase your timeout ratio if they are not replaced with new finished games.

You cannot create a tournament if this is enforced.

http://www.chess.com/tournaments/help.html#create

How do I create a tournament?

You must be a Premium Member and meet the following criteria:

Must have at least a 10% win ratio.

Must have no more than a 15% timeout ratio.

Avatar of dcowboy69

Thanx to all'

Avatar of AlCzervik

I recently had a similar problem. I couldn't join a tournament because my t/o was 6%. I wrote to chess.com and was told that the 90 day # was determined arbitrarily.

I had written because, until trying to enter the tourney, I didn't even know what my t/o # was. I had not been able to go online for ONE day about a month ago and lost some games on time.

There is no recourse. Either play your way out of it, or wait out the 90 days.

Avatar of AlCzervik

TadDude is correct. It IS virtually impossible to play your way out of a t/o problem, unless you quit your job and play chess all day.

I have completed a few games since my last post and my t/o ratio..........went up by 1%.....

To the mods at chess.com; I feel this situation needs to be addressed. I agree there needs to be a way to monitor if players are playing or wasting others' time, but the current standard doesn't work as it was intended when initially created. 

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TMIMITW wrote:

TadDude is correct. It IS virtually impossible to play your way out of a t/o problem, unless you quit your job and play chess all day.

I have completed a few games since my last post and my t/o ratio..........went up by 1%.....

To the mods at chess.com; I feel this situation needs to be addressed. I agree there needs to be a way to monitor if players are playing or wasting others' time, but the current standard doesn't work as it was intended when initially created. 


You can always ask but it is working as intended. Timeouts used to be counted forever.

Consider someone who after 80 games times out in 40 games. 

Old way: 40/120 = 33.3%, then 280 games later without timing out 40/400 = 10% with each further timeout adding nine more games to be completed.

You can imagine 40 timeout losses in a few days, a normal occurrence for basic members, followed by a few years to complete 280 games.

New way: Instead of creating a new account some members may wait 90 days.

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TadDude wrote:
TMIMITW wrote:

TadDude is correct. It IS virtually impossible to play your way out of a t/o problem, unless you quit your job and play chess all day.

I have completed a few games since my last post and my t/o ratio..........went up by 1%.....

To the mods at chess.com; I feel this situation needs to be addressed. I agree there needs to be a way to monitor if players are playing or wasting others' time, but the current standard doesn't work as it was intended when initially created. 


You can always ask but it is working as intended. Timeouts used to be counted forever.

Consider someone who after 80 games times out in 40 games. 

Old way: 40/120 = 33.3%, then 280 games later without timing out 40/400 = 10% with each further timeout adding nine more games to be completed.

You can imagine 40 timeout losses in a few days, a normal occurrence for basic members, followed by a few years to complete 280 games.

New way: Instead of creating a new account some members may wait 90 days.


 I don't beleive it is working as intended. The intention is determining who plays versus those that may start games and not finish. That is the point. My concern is not about the "old way" you state. It is about the current rule. And, I firmly believe it needs to be changed.

Tad, you have an example where one times out 40 times in a few days! Yes, that should matter! Anyone timing out like that should have problems joining tournaments.

I have played 600+ games here, timed out in less than 10. I can understand how the mods want to make sure players will play-and that is the point presented by the OP amd I.  The t/o situation needs to be changed. Players like me, and some others should not be punished when we can't make moves one day, for whatever reason, and time out.

I'm also disturbed that, with so many mods here, that a simpleton like me could come to a conclusion that has not been addressed previously.

Under 10, or 20, or 50 games, t/o ratio may stand at 90 days. Instead of one rule, have a sliding scale. If one has played 2000 games, but, recently timed out in a few, it should not have a large impact. Just a thought I've come to in a few seconds....

I hope the mods are reading this thread.

Avatar of AlCzervik

Here is an issue that is completely discretionary.

My t/o ratio went from 7% to 0 today-91st day. However, my average time per move has rarely changed, and, if it does, it changes by 1 minute.

In the past I have not been allowed to join tournaments due to restrictions in either category. I have even set certain restrictions where I am the TD.

This may be another problem. Time per move seems to be based on ones complete history, while t/o's have an arbitrary 90 day rule.

Both matter. I have seen it and used the restrictions when I have set up tournaments. Not all TD's use the default settings. These two issues are important to some of us, but are treated differently. Why the difference?