Vote Chess matches are ruined for teamplay

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Bramblyspam
jdcannon wrote:

Can you link me to where you are seeing this not work?

I just voted for a move and offered a draw in this game.
I see the move, and can see who voted for it. (As of this writing my vote is the only one). That's great.
I'm not seeing the draw offer.

Andrea

Thanks for feedback @Bramblyspam

most probably you are able to see the amount of draw votes after the turn

Kookaburrra
Andrea wrote:

Thanks for feedback @Bramblyspam

most probably you are able to see the amount of draw votes after the turn

It is better if you can see the number of draw (or resign) votes during the turn.

varelse1
Andrea wrote:

Thanks for feedback @Bramblyspam

most probably you are able to see the amount of draw votes after the turn

But even after the move, you cannot see WHO voted for the draws.

Kookaburrra
varelse1 wrote:
Andrea wrote:

Thanks for feedback @Bramblyspam

most probably you are able to see the amount of draw votes after the turn

But even after the move, you cannot see WHO voted for the draws.

Could we ever see who had voted for draws or resigns? I don’t remember.

Bramblyspam

I'm pretty sure we could never see who voted for draws/resignations. 
That would be a nice feature to have, but other bug fixes seem more important to me.

Andrea

In the past all was visible and it would be great to have this state again

Bramblyspam
jdcannon wrote:

Can you link me to where you are seeing this not work?

Here's another one. I just voted in this game. As of this writing, there are 5 votes for one move and 1 vote for another. I can see who the 5 voters are, but not the 1. 

wouterkabouter

I think this is normal when you have a fix announced like this: "A fix was released this morning. Please let me know if you continue to have issues."

Just not precise enough.

Kookaburrra
Bramblyspam wrote:
jdcannon wrote:

Can you link me to where you are seeing this not work?

Here's another one. I just voted in this game. As of this writing, there are 5 votes for one move and 1 vote for another. I can see who the 5 voters are, but not the 1.

I joined the game. You can’t see who voted for the 1 vote. Would it have been before the fix?

MaxtonJHo

You can see who voted for what and when... after voting, you can click on each voted move and see who voted.

Bramblyspam
Kookaburrra wrote:

Would it have been before the fix?

Possibly. I see a jdcannon post from two days ago, saying a fix was released that morning. Our opponents made their move 2 days and 6 hours ago. So the mystery vote may have been cast before the fix was implemented.

Ximoon

That is an option you can chose when creating the VC game. So it already exists.

Vieira58

Everything that has been said so far can be summarized in a few words, and that Chess.com could and should resolve/implement as soon as possible, for those who love the "Vote Chess" modality. In a "Vote Chess" game, EVERYTHING, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, SHOULD BE VISIBLE TO THE TEAM, because it is a team game, by the team, for the team, in function of the team, coordinated by the team, managed by the team, led by the team. Any other definition of "Vote Chess" is a mere mistake. And, in my opinion, changing the name to "Team Chess" and not "Vote Chess". In a "Team Chess" a player does not VOTE on a move, he/she SUGGESTS a move. It is not an ELECTION, it is a CONSENSUS. The concept is wrong. This is a suggestion for Chess.com.

wouterkabouter

Yes voting is a tiny aspect of the whole team chess happening. Better rebrand it to "team chess" indeed. I am on the same eagon

wouterkabouter

Wagon*

uglyork

The German name for Vote Chess is indeed "Consultation Chess". The consultation before (!) voting and the whole team dynamics are far more importing than the voting act. Indeed everything must be transparent - also the comments -after- the game, only one but important reason to see the influence of the cheaters.

uglyork

but "Team Chess" sound nicer. - The "team matches" show also 2 teams playing, but everyone plays the own game only and consulting the team colleagues about their moves is not allowed. You add the points at the end, that's all about "team".

Bramblyspam

I prefer "vote chess". After all, voting is the distinguishing characteristic of the format.
"Team chess" would be confused with team matches.

uglyork

Exactly - team matches don't deserve that name -)
Yep, voting is the distinguishing characteristic, and so too many think voting is the only important act, not thinking.