Why wasn't this a draw via threefold repetition?

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I looked at the rule book.  Perhaps you should have done the same.

9.2

The game is drawn upon a correct claim by the player having the move, when the same position, for at least the third time (not necessarily by a repetition of moves):

a.

is about to appear, if he first writes his move on his scoresheet and declares to the arbiter his intention to make this move, or

b.

has just appeared, and the player claiming the draw has the move.

Positions as in (a) and (b) are considered the same, if the same player has the move, pieces of the same kind and colour occupy the same squares, and the possible moves of all the pieces of both players are the same.

Positions are not the same if a pawn that could have been captured en passant can no longer be captured in this manner. When a king or a rook is forced to move, it will lose its castling rights, if any, only after it is moved.

again the queen is still alive and she can move. 3 fold like any other draw can be accomplished when there no other pieces which can move

is anybody really gonna force 50 move draw in real life or will u play it to the end anyways try not playing on a computer generated board for a change this is a default draw to keep games moving just like the timer

You are wrong. Stop trolling.

??? Where did this come from?  I didn't write it anywhere in this thread.

When I saw the subject thread, I knew exactly what happend, then I clicked on it, and saw it was 3 page long thread! Ussually this is just a newer guy who didn't know you have to claim it with the offer draw button, and then it's case closed...

But ah! Enter troll! He's the reason this thread lives on!

@ramses9721, you are so wrong.... 3 fold means that the same position with the same side to move occurs 3 times! Won't listen to us? Let ol' wiki tell ya! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threefold_repetition

Hope this clears it up!

All of you are obviously mistaken in thinking that FIDE's rules are anything more than suggestions. Obviously ramses9721's rules are what really matter.

Unfortunately arbiters haven't been able to understand ramses9721's rules, so they decide the next best thing is to use FIDE's rules (or USCF, etc.).

You barely know how the pieces move judging by your playing history. I'd recommend focusing on learning the game instead of demonstrating your ignorance of the rules.

Yes!  I had an opponent who wouldn't accept a draw in a K+R vs K+R position.  It was easier to count 50 moves than it was to determine the third repetition (which in your rule book is not a draw).

um... what?

@macer75

According to the ramses9721 rulebook, the position has to be locked up before three-fold repetition can be claimed.

I think he's confusing 3-fold repetition and stalemate, which would be excusable for a beginner if he wasn't being such a hard-head about it.

no just the fact that there no other possible moves has always been a general draw if the king cant move and there other pieces to move someone claims draw than that is just piss poor skill in chess in my rule book

Summing up, ramses said some deranged things.

And if anyone wanted to get back to the actual topic - a draw by threefold repetition is NOT automatic. It has to be claimed. You and your opponent could repeat the same position more than three times just to stall, or because you weren't sure what to do, then later deviate, and the game would not be a draw. Chess.com is right to require the draw to be claimed, as the FIDE rules demand. Just be aware that you have to claim it.

I'm not sure you have room to talk in that regard...

You are not talking about the same rule as everyone else is.