is bullet chess "silly"

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psyduck

The thing is in bullet is people make blunders, but those blunders are punished (once you reacha certain level of course). Good bullet playes lead the opponent into traps. You can pretty much bank on the opponent making the most instinctual move, so you prod them a certain way. It's not just shuffling of pieces. my latest bullet game as black:

LaserZorin
psyduck wrote:

The thing is in bullet is people make blunders, but those blunders are punished (once you reacha certain level of course). Good bullet playes lead the opponent into traps. You can pretty much bank on the opponent making the most instinctual move, so you prod them a certain way. It's not just shuffling of pieces. my latest bullet game as black:


No one is saying that bullet is simply shuffling pieces, and if you check, I have a pretty good record and rating in 1 0 games myself.  But even at the very pinnacle of bullet play, those Nakamura games posted earlier, it's rife with blunders. 

Think what that says about bullet games; one of the strongest living human players, Hikaru Nakamura, makes blunders unworthy of a solid 1600 USCF player. Is that serious chess, let alone something deserving of study?  Not really. 

It's just silly fun, which is an assessment most titled players would agree with, too.  (At least from the few I've asked about this) 

MrAwEsOmE12

bullet chess is simply based on who can click the fastest......enough said

psyduck

I don't get how somebody finds bullet chess silly compared to using engines, buying books, asking for advice, spending 2 days thinking of a single move. I mean, chess is a game, just because the moves aren't as high quality doesn't make it any less of a game, just changes the dynamics.

-X-

(Bullet)Chess is silly.

No it's not.

Yes it is.

No it's not.

Yes t'is.

No t'isn't.

T'is so.

T'is not.

T'is.

T'isn't.  .........

kco

to psyduck, you/we cannot compare between  the bullet and the chess correspondence they two completely different thing.

-X-

Morozevich was known to defend his position on occasion and on this basis we can conclude that your "trying to persuade others who simply respond to all of this with "it is silly,"" is not silly.

Atos
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Musikamole

No. Bullet chess is real chess.

Watch IM's and GM's play bullet over at ICC. It's amazing. The moves look very similar to the high quality moves played in 4 hour games. These players are amazing at what they do.

Atos
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-X-

No they're not.

Atos

Of course pizzas r way better, but if hamburger is the specialty of the house, I''l try it.

-X-

Pizzas are silly.

Atos
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LaserZorin
Fezzik wrote:

Whether bullet chess is silly or not, Morozevich used casual blitz and and bullet games on ICC and playchess.com in his great book on the Chigorin Defense. There are ideas in bullet games that show up later in correspondence games and high class tournaments.

If that's all silly, then it is indeed silly. If arguing that a chess game can be interesting (and not silly) even if it contains mistakes is  silly, then bullet chess is silly. (By that standard, some of the most famous games of all time have been silly.)

If trying to persuade others who simply respond to all of this with "it is silly" is silly, I'll stop being silly.


I think you just broke the record for number of "silly"s in a single post.  How silly.

I just find it funny how many 2300-2400 bullet "specialists" on this site can't even crack an easy 1900 rating in blitz play, let alone attain a respectable FIDE/USCF rating in OTB tournaments. 

Atos
Fezzik wrote:

 

Thank you all for taking my last post in the spirit I intended it!


We didn't intend to take it in the spirit you intended it, if it happened it was probably a blunder !

Atos
Musikamole wrote:

No. Bullet chess is real chess.

Watch IM's and GM's play bullet over at ICC. It's amazing. The moves look very similar to the high quality moves played in 4 hour games. These players are amazing at what they do.


I think that "look similar" is the key word here. Few of us are good enough to see GM's mistakes, particularly when watching the games at that speed. 

Atos
LaserZorin wrote:

I just find it funny how many 2300-2400 bullet "specialists" on this site can't even crack an easy 1900 rating in blitz play, let alone attain a respectable FIDE/USCF rating in OTB tournaments. 


I agree. I am not even high rated in bullet but I won a bullet game against an FM on time, and I once checkmated an NM in bullet because he made a wrong premove. I am pretty sure that I wouldn't have a chance against a master on standard time controls.

batgirl

Bullet chess, when taken for what it is, is ok but, for me at least, not even much fun while being only superficially related to chess.  Blitz can be really fun and much closer to chess.  The minute someone starts to anaylze bullet, however, they've crossed the line between fun and silliness. 

psyduck

true, analyzing bullet is silly