RK v RK still leaves a chance for one side to blunder and lose. Draws pop up automatically for insufficient material and stalemate.
Is there an auto draw on this site
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Jul 8, 2023
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#3
That is really disappointing because another chess site I play on I've encountered this ending close to 100 times and its important to end the game. There are some very rare occurances but not nearly as the number of obvious waste of time and energy draws. This should be an autodraw. I know many players will accept draw but some don't.
Jul 8, 2023
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#4
I probably wouldn't accept a draw, but then theres also the 50 move rule that could end in a draw.
Jul 9, 2023
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#5
chessbase. Well I would have to offer draw and then it would automatically give a draw and end game.
#6
Would the following position result in an automatic draw, with White to move, if Black offers a draw?
It’s a difference between fide and uscf rules. Chess.com is a mixture of both: https://support.chess.com/article/128-what-does-insufficient-mating-material-mean
Jul 10, 2023
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#8
Well Eric0022 you found the reason why they aren't doing the autodraw for rooks. How often does that situation come up compared with the millions of other rook king vs. rook king option. Would it be fair to accept auto draw in that situation. I just like the other website giving autodraw for rook and king vs rook and king. You need to ask for the draw though. If you ask it is accepted. My guess is king and queen vs king and queen would be accepted also. To have to make 30 rook moves against the other player who is making 30 rook moves in a blitz game is really nonsense.
Jul 13, 2023
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#9
fichombination wrote:
benonidoni "How often does that situation come up compared with the millions of other rook king vs. rook king option."
What about the hundreds of different skewers that could come up in that endgame?
" My guess is king and queen vs king and queen would be accepted also."
What about rook vs bishop or rook vs knight? If the idea with the RvsR draw is you'd have to play really badly to lose in that then couldn't the same be said for those as well? The point is where do you draw the line? You could come up with situations all day long where someone would have to play really badly to lose.
Just ask yourself the question would the position help a beginner learn basic endgames. If no it should be an auto draw. Knight and King vs Rook and King is a basic endgame that a beginner should learn. King and Rook vs King and Rook isn't. King and Queen vs. King and Queen isn't. Therefore it should be an auto draw in online blitz's to ease up on the wrist and save having to use the 50 move rule. I think its common sense stuff.
benonidoni wrote:
chessbase. Well I would have to offer draw and then it would automatically give a draw and end game.
play.chessbase.com strictly follows the FIDE rules of chess, and under them rook vs rook is NOT an "automatic draw". Nor you will be granted a draw if you claim it.
Jul 14, 2023
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fichombination wrote:
Why'd you have to throw that last line in about common sense? Your were doing well and starting to convince me until then. But when you say that your position is "only common sense" you're saying that anyone that disagrees with it or question it lacks comon sense. In other words you are calling people stupid.
So since you have provoked an argument out of me my question to you would be how can you use that phrase to describe a definition that is arbitrary capricious and at the same time convoluted and gimmicky? A definition that says the rules of chess that EVERYONE has to play by should be modeled on an obscure thing like what is good for teaching beginners? It's also good when teaching beginners hold off on en passant for a while. So do we now eliminate en passant because that's how you teach beginners? Great "Common sense" right there.
I used the term common sense meaning why would somebody want to move a piece 50 times around the board just to see who can run the clock out the quickest. There is another game waiting. Its a clear draw so the point of that whole 20 moves was to tell his opponent that he can move pieces faster than the other. I don't think its real productive. There is no point in continuing play in a rook vs king against rook vs king endgame.
I played a person in a 10 minute game where we each had one rook and a king. That person was up one rook and 4 pawns to one rook and one pawn but didn't know rook endings too well. I offered draws at the rook vs. king against rook vs. king and he kept playing. Other sites autodraw. What to do?