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sport4o

Hello everyone! I want to hear your thoughts and experience about time cheating at Chess.com. Here is one of the many I face up every day:

notmtwain
sport4o wrote:

Hello everyone! I want to hear your thoughts and experience about time cheating at Chess.com. Here is one of the many I face up every day:

 

You won. Your opponent resigned.

Is that a problem?

sport4o

Nah, I don't mean the result. Look at the parameters. Don't tell me it's possible. :)

notmtwain
sport4o wrote:

Nah, I don't mean the result. Look at the parameters. Don't tell me it's possible. :)

Do you mean that you think it's impossible for someone to play 51 moves in 28 seconds?

He is evidently very good at using premoves.  All the moves where he uses only 0.1 seconds were probably premoves.

You can look at the time record for each move now in V3.  It shows that  7 of his first 8 moves each took only 0.1 seconds but when he moved his knight away from covering his queen on move 9 and you took his queen, it took him 0.9 seconds to decide on his next move.

Evidently he hadn't expected it.

sport4o
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notmtwain

You evidently also experienced lag adjustments.

Why did the clock times suddenly change? The clocks seem broken!

A bullet game with a lot of lag could take twice as long as it is supposed to. If the lag were coming from your side, he would have all that "adjustment" time to think about pre-moves.

The chess.com explanation in that link makes the lag adjustments seem both fair and unavoidable to me. It probably does change the complexion of a bullet game.

sport4o

Don't look at what computer shows. If he uses some program, then it's understandable. I mean that it's impossible for a human being to see the board, think of a move and make it within 0.1 second. What about 52 moves one after another in a game? I don't believe it. 

notmtwain
sport4o wrote:

Don't look at what computer shows. If he uses some program, then it's understandable. I mean that it's impossible for a human being to see the board, think of a move and make it within 0.1 second. What about 52 moves one after another in a game? I don't believe it. 

I agree that it seems extremely fast.  However, if you watch "Bullet Battles" on Chess.TV, Daniel Rensch is always guessing his opponent's moves and using pre-move. I imagine that it is a pretty useful skill in bullet, except when you leave your queen hanging.

sport4o

So you tell me that it's absolutely impossible to cheat here, right? Like Chess.com say "nobody cheats" but they have people who investigate and close accounts of cheaters. What a nonsense. :)

notmtwain

No, a lot of people do cheat here. Chess.com does what it can to detect them. Many people get thrown off the site.

So far, however, as far as I know, no one has proven the existence of time hacks although half a dozen people raise the possibility/ accuse their opponents here in the forums every day.  

They are always ignorant of lag adjustments and think that their opponent has taken control of the clocks. While one can never rule such things out completely, the explanation that chess.com gives for lag adjustments seems like a more likely explanation to me.

VintagePawn
sport4o wrote:

So you tell me that it's absolutely impossible to cheat here, right? Like Chess.com say "nobody cheats" but they have people who investigate and close accounts of cheaters. What a nonsense. :)

 

No one ever claims that cheating doesn't happen. What is said is that discussions of cheating are not allowed in the general forums.

 

If you want to discuss, join the following group.

https://www.chess.com/groups/home/cheating-forum

 

Also, you can check out the following for information.

 

https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444879-fair-play-on-chess-com-what-you-need-to-know

Diakonia

You have posted nothing that shows "cheating"

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