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Mickdonedee
westbrookrussell wrote:
 

Seeing Re7 played instead of the bishop move would be irrational, irresponsible and would come without reason as it doesn't seem to accomplish much unless if Black was to resign completely by giving up it's Rook or if Black simply wanted to lose in a much faster and stylish way. 

It seems that you're right about Re7 to block the White Bishop. It doesn't work. I thought it would give the Black King a backdoor to escape. But, unfortunately, it doesn't because the White Queen is controlling the f7 square. Just out of curiosity, I gave Black the first move instead of White to see if Black could avoid a mate. See a couple of solutions below.

 

 

westbrookrussell
Mickdonedee wrote:
westbrookrussell wrote:
 

Seeing Re7 played instead of the bishop move would be irrational, irresponsible and would come without reason as it doesn't seem to accomplish much unless if Black was to resign completely by giving up it's Rook or if Black simply wanted to lose in a much faster and stylish way. 

It seems that you're right about Re7 to block the White Bishop. It doesn't work. I thought it would give the Black King a backdoor to escape. But, unfortunately, it doesn't because the White Queen is controlling the f7 square. Just out of curiosity, I gave Black the first move instead of White to see if Black could avoid a mate. See a couple of solutions below.

 

 

Wow, nice. Even though the games are all over and all is said and done analyzing from a different perspective really does open a new chapter in the field of curiosity. I like the exploration of tactics and checkmating and potential sacrifices made to the king to deliver faster checkmates however analyzing with Stockfish 15 it showed Bd5 after 1... Bxd6 2. cxd6 2... Qxd6 3. Bg5+ 3... Re7 as a way to start weaving the mating net by blocking the square on f7 and still guarding the b7 in case there were to be any mistakes in the process of checkmate, which wouldn't be likely in the case of Stockfish 15.

Anyway, I love the exploring of the different sides of the battle and taking into perspective what indeed would have happened if Komodo had a chance to move a specific piece. Keep at it! I will try to find games similar to those of Stockfish 15 and/or Komodo 25. Perhaps even find another one where the checkmate may be a little harder to find to the average person.

westbrookrussell
westbrookrussell wrote:
Mickdonedee wrote:
westbrookrussell wrote:
 

Seeing Re7 played instead of the bishop move would be irrational, irresponsible and would come without reason as it doesn't seem to accomplish much unless if Black was to resign completely by giving up it's Rook or if Black simply wanted to lose in a much faster and stylish way. 

It seems that you're right about Re7 to block the White Bishop. It doesn't work. I thought it would give the Black King a backdoor to escape. But, unfortunately, it doesn't because the White Queen is controlling the f7 square. Just out of curiosity, I gave Black the first move instead of White to see if Black could avoid a mate. See a couple of solutions below.

 

 

Wow thats great. Even though the games are all over and all is said and done analyzing from a different perspective really does open a new chapter in the field of curiosity. I like the exploration of tactics and checkmating and potential sacrifices made to the king to deliver faster checkmates however analyzing with Stockfish 15 it showed Bd5 after 1... Bxd6 2. cxd6 2... Qxd6 3. Bg5+ 3... Re7 as a way to start weaving the mating net by blocking the square on f7 and still guarding the b7 in case there were to be any mistakes in the process of checkmate, which wouldn't be likely in the case of Stockfish 15.

Anyway, I love the exploring of the different sides of the battle and taking into perspective what indeed would have happened if Komodo had a chance to move a specific piece. Keep at it! I will try to find games similar to those of Stockfish 15 and/or Komodo 25. Perhaps even find another one where the checkmate may be a little harder to find to the average person.

 

Mickdonedee

When I gave Black the first move it was interesting to see Black capture the two White Pawns first. Their presence close to the Black King made it difficult for Black's minor pieces to manouvre and setup an effective fortress around the King. I also noticed how ineffective Black's Rooks were. The h Rook didn't participate in the endgame at all.

Enzkto9

https://www.chess.com/puzzles/problem/1280871 This puzzle its a little difficult. I think this puzzle is too good if you wants to improve at endgames tactics.

 

Enzkto9

When I went to solve a puzzle, I tried the Bc4 move, to stop the b4 move. But it's a losing bid. That's because White plays Bd4, enslaving the f-pawn defending the e3-pawn. And, also, at some point white will be able to play bxe3. handing over the bishop so Black doesn't have any more passed pawns.

westbrookrussell

Here's a game that was played back in 2011 in the Saint Louis event hosted by Chessgames.com where it's known as Robson's trail to the "Deep Dark Forest" that Finegold followed him into. In this game Robson comes out on top with a brilliant move causing for the grandmaster to resign after considering all possibilities.

Just a side note: Finegold resigned the game a move before the puzzle ends. I just added it as an addition because I think it may be a little too short.

westbrookrussell


Similar, move-wise, to that of the Finegold-Robson match, here's a game set in 26th of February 2022 in the Swiss Rapid Chess Championship set by Chess.com where Robson plays Hans Niemann where Hans is playing to win without trying to give too much of a disadvantage to himself, at least material-wise, therefore he stumbles upon a ruthless set of mating patterns. See if you can secure the win for Ray Robson as he secures a win to move on to Week 4.

Enzkto9
westbrookrussell wrote:


Similar, move-wise, to that of the Finegold-Robson match, here's a game set in 26th of February 2022 in the Swiss Rapid Chess Championship set by Chess.com where Robson plays Hans Niemann where Hans is playing to win without trying to give too much of a disadvantage to himself, at least material-wise, therefore he stumbles upon a ruthless set of mating patterns. See if you can secure the win for Ray Robson as he secures a win to move on to Week 4.

 

The solution is h5! Giving a pawn check to worsen the king's position. If Black takes the pawn on h5, he will be checkmate on g4. So the only square for black is h7. And Ne6, threatening to play Nf8+, either Kh8 or Kg8, will lead to Ng6+, Kh7 and Qh8 checkmate. Notice that Black does not have time to give check, that is, this makes it more possible to perform checkmate. Continuing with the resolution of the problem, if Black refuses to give up the Queen for the knight on f8, he can play g6 or g4. If they play g6, just play hxg6, and, they can't take the king, because Qg8 will deliver checkmate after a few moves. and,
if black plays g5, it will be the same solution if black plays g6.

 

Enzkto9
westbrookrussell wrote:


Similar, move-wise, to that of the Finegold-Robson match, here's a game set in 26th of February 2022 in the Swiss Rapid Chess Championship set by Chess.com where Robson plays Hans Niemann where Hans is playing to win without trying to give too much of a disadvantage to himself, at least material-wise, therefore he stumbles upon a ruthless set of mating patterns. See if you can secure the win for Ray Robson as he secures a win to move on to Week 4.

 

 

 

In my opinion, what makes White's plan infallible is that Black had no check. That's because, in some puzzles that I made and games that I played throughout my life, there were positions that, it seemed that I had won, however, the opponent had the possibility of giving check and forcing a perpetual draw. In some positions, even if the opponent has check, we are won anyway.

 

westbrookrussell

Finally, to top it off here's a game where I, myself, played a game where it was seemingly equal in evaluation until my opponent made a blunder that cost him the game with my brilliant move that won material and in the long-term, won the game.