Shortest-proof-game challenge

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n9531l1
EvinSung wrote:
#6023

One of several games in 12.5

Leither123
n9531l1 wrote:

My conclusion is that this position does not have any unique proof games. The 11.5 move SPG is not unique, and none of the proof games in 12.0, 12.5, 13.0, or 13.5 is unique.

Would you post what you have as the SUPG for the position?

Well, it appears that I did not in fact have the SPG, since my solution (14.0) is longer than every single length that you have mentioned. I tried to check the position with Jacobi but after 8 hours it still shows up as 0% progress, so I suppose you are the only one who can show us the real SPG.

tygxc

@6022

Leither123
tygxc wrote:

@6022

Ng8 should not be there

tygxc

@6028

tygxc

@6029

n9531l1
Leither123 wrote:

Well, it appears that I did not in fact have the SPG, since my solution (14.0) is longer than every single length that you have mentioned.

The results I gave at #6024 were for a position that also had a white rook at h1. Did you ever change the position after you first posted it?

n9531l1

For the current #6022, the 13.0 SPG is not unique, nor is any of the 13.5, 14.0, or 14.5 proof games. It has no unique proof game.

Here is one of the SPGs.

Leither123

The only position I ever posted should have been the version without a rook on h1, since I never created a version with the rook on h1.

Interestingly, I did create several versions with a rook on g1, which were all cooked by Jacobi. But they also had different configurations for black, and I never posted those either.

Leither123
n9531l1
Leither123 wrote:
#6034

SPG in 14.0, not unique. Position has no unique proof games.

EvinSung
tygxc

@6036

EndgameEnthusiast2357

I hate those positions that must end with white to move as black couldn't have made the last move.

n9531l1
EvinSung wrote:
#6036

SPG in 16.5, not unique.

n9531l1
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

I hate those positions that must end with white to move as black couldn't have made the last move.

Those are my favorite kind.

RewanDemontay
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

I hate those positions that must end with white to move as black couldn't have made the last move.

This might be a fun position for y'all to try out.

BishopTakesH7

Easier challenge

tygxc

@6042

n9531l1
RewanDemontay wrote:
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

I hate those positions that must end with white to move as black couldn't have made the last move.

This might be a fun position for y'all to try out. (#6041)

It's legal. Rewan will tell us how much shorter it needs to be.