Shortest-proof-game challenge

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n9531l1
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

We both declare opposite things, but since I have the higher rating I guess mine takes precedent..or we could settle this in a 10 game bullet playoff if you want?

We declare opposite things, but since my posts contain many fewer grammatical and spelling errors than yours, I guess mine takes precedence.

Both our declarations are silly. I was pointing out the foolishness of your comment in requiring a declaration for what needs to be decided by a consensus.

You should request a vote on your proposal by all readers of this thread. So far, the vote is some large number to one against.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Alright vote everyone! Should all posted positions end in a full number of moves (white to move) or should they all end in half moves (black to move), or does it not matter at all. Post your vote ASAP!!!

n9531l1

In the world of recognized problemists who compose for publication and composition tourneys, a proof game can end with either side to play. But in this thread, we can adopt whatever rules we can agree on, so we can go with something different. My vote is to stick with the usual understanding that a proof game can end with either side to play.

BishopTakesH7
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Alright vote everyone! Should all posted positions end in a full number of moves (white to move) or should they all end in half moves (black to move), or does it not matter at all. Post your vote ASAP!!!

It doesn't matter whose turn it ends with.

EvinSung
n9531l1 wrote:
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

We both declare opposite things, but since I have the higher rating I guess mine takes precedent..or we could settle this in a 10 game bullet playoff if you want?

We declare opposite things, but since my posts contain many fewer grammatical and spelling errors than yours, I guess mine takes precedence.

Both our declarations are silly. I was pointing out the foolishness of your comment in requiring a declaration for what needs to be decided by a consensus.

You should request a vote on your proposal by all readers of this thread. So far, the vote is some large number to one against.

it is supposed to be 32.5

EvinSung
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Alright vote everyone! Should all posted positions end in a full number of moves (white to move) or should they all end in half moves (black to move), or does it not matter at all. Post your vote ASAP!!!

i think all positions are fine

RewanDemontay
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Alright vote everyone! Should all posted positions end in a full number of moves (white to move) or should they all end in half moves (black to move), or does it not matter at all. Post your vote ASAP!!!

This ain't your turf to control.

tygxc

@6269

I think all positions are fine.
Since I have the higher rating I guess mine takes precedence. :-)

Ilampozhil25

i believe all positions must end in half moves (for a satisfyingly symmetric vote of 1-x-1 where x is a large number)

EvinSung
Ilampozhil25 wrote:

i believe all positions must end in half moves (for a satisfyingly symmetric vote of 1-x-1 where x is a large number)

ok

EndgameEnthusiast2357

So 4 votes for it doesn't matter and 1 vote for it should be black to move..

BishopTakesH7

Repost; white to move.

n9531l1
BishopTakesH7 wrote:

Repost; white to move.

Are you sure the SPG for this position ends with White to move? Do you have a proof game, and are you sure it's the shortest possible?

BishopTakesH7
n9531l1 wrote:

Are you sure the SPG for this position ends with White to move? Do you have a proof game, and are you sure it's the shortest possible?

This position is from a forum puzzle. I do not have a proof game. I'm somewhat certain black can promote 6 DSBs to reach this position.

BishopTakesH7
EvinSung wrote:
#6262

Proof of legality, not at all optimized.

n9531l1
BishopTakesH7 wrote:
n9531l1 wrote:

Are you sure the SPG for this position ends with White to move? Do you have a proof game, and are you sure it's the shortest possible?

This position is from a forum puzzle. I do not have a proof game. I'm somewhat certain black can promote 6 DSBs to reach this position.

I'm thinking now you just want any proof game that ends with White to play, not necessarily an SPG. It's hard to be sure what you're after. Maybe you could clarify it.

BishopTakesH7
n9531l1 wrote:

I'm thinking now you just want any proof game that ends with White to play, not necessarily an SPG. It's hard to be sure what you're after. Maybe you could clarify it.

I’m not explicitly looking for the SPG. However, if someone finds a proof game and then shortens it down to be somewhat optimal, that would be ideal.

n9531l1
BishopTakesH7 wrote:

I’m not explicitly looking for the SPG. However, if someone finds a proof game and then shortens it down to be somewhat optimal, that would be ideal.

Ideal even if it's Black to play when shortened as much as possible?

EvinSung

hi

n9531l1

Here's a proof game that ends with White to play. I'm not sure how much shorter it can be.