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crtexxx wrote:

lol. I have analyzed it. Why do you think I've been here for these minutes? Very complicated, and would take a lot of time to work out the correct lines in a real game, even for masters.

You, on the other hand, did no analysis! You simply copied houdini's moves one by on! So therefore no advice from yourself!

I adjusted the moves and experimented with different positions. The evaluation would not change.

I saw 31. Ba6! in my game, but decided to go with the safer 31. Nf7!?.

I could have resigned, but I saw I had a chance. I doubt any 1200+ could have done this against an opponent rated 300 points higher.

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Yereslov wrote:
crtexxx wrote:

Oh yeah one more thing...

I wonder if a 1200 like u knows who Mikhail Tal is...

I knew who Mikhail Tal was when I was a lowly 800+ rated player.

Even my father who has never played chess in his life knows who Mikhail Tal is.

Apparently you don't really know him...

His games are full of speculative but -1.82(Houdini here!) piece sacrifices and many pawn sacs too (-.43).

His opponents, including WC Botvinnik lost against them.

Are you better than Botvinnik or the countless master he played? No, you're not even better than savage or me.

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yeres30 wrote:

What's this baloney "In my game I played 31.Nf7 bxc5 32.Nxh8 followed by 32...Rh1?

How is that baloney? 

Explain.

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crtexxx wrote:
Yereslov wrote:
crtexxx wrote:

Oh yeah one more thing...

I wonder if a 1200 like u knows who Mikhail Tal is...

I knew who Mikhail Tal was when I was a lowly 800+ rated player.

Even my father who has never played chess in his life knows who Mikhail Tal is.

Apparently you don't really know him...

His games are full of speculative but -1.82(Houdini here!) piece sacrifices and many pawn sacs too (-.43).

His opponents, including WC Botvinnik lost against them.

Are you better than Botvinnik or the countless master he played? No, you're not even better than savage or me.

It's impressive when a GM blunders a piece and gets away with it, but a disaster when a patzer does the same exact thing?

Okay, if you say so...

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Yereslov wrote:
crtexxx wrote:

lol. I have analyzed it. Why do you think I've been here for these minutes? Very complicated, and would take a lot of time to work out the correct lines in a real game, even for masters.

You, on the other hand, did no analysis! You simply copied houdini's moves one by on! So therefore no advice from yourself!

I adjusted the moves and experimented with different positions. The evaluation would not change.

I saw 31. Ba6! in my game, but decided to go with the safer 31. Nf7!?.

I could have resigned, but I saw I had a chance. I doubt any 1200+ could have done this against an opponent rated 300 points higher.

Yeah, anyone who knows what a candidate move is would consider, and therefore "see" the correct move.

Chess is a psychological battle as much as theoretical. Pyschologically deciding to play the risky move is the most (or as you would probably want it : 68.314%) challenging part of actually making the correct move otb in many cases.

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GMs (and other masters) know the ins and outs (as IM silman referred to it) of the chess position after a sacrifice, and decided that, although possibly wrong with best play, knew that the opponent could mess up easily. 

He didn't "lose" a piece or pawn because he is weak and lost a piece because he didn't calculate anything.

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Oh yeah, by the way, here is a little test. You think that you can hold  material advantage to a win in a complex situation. Here is a position from a game I played against an 1800+ @ the 2012 World open. It is one of my best games in the GPA, although I bet your friend Houdini would beg to differ.

I won't show you the whole thing. Just tell me the best move for black after the last white move on the board--and NO ENGINES. In fact, explain exactly how you arrived @ the move. If you provide vars, then explain those too. Oh yeah, and the clock otb is ticking ;). By the way, after a deep think, the 1800 player blundered immediately. He was one of the top performers there too..

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Oh yeah! I forgot. You mentioned something about 2 pawns up...

In that case, in the final position, just imagine that the a2 and c2 pawns aren't there ;). Now you're up a whole piece! Just like Tal's sacs! Good luck!

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Yereslov wrote:

Just so we're straight, I said a "winning advantage", not a won game.

A winning position is not always a win.

WTF??

Are you sure you're a 2100? 

It's a common term in chess literature.

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mashanator wrote:
Yereslov wrote:
yeres30 wrote:

What's this baloney "In my game I played 31.Nf7 bxc5 32.Nxh8 followed by 32...Rh1?

How is that baloney? 

Explain.

I didn't look at the position but I'm assuming 32...Rh1 is illegal because the Knight just captured that piece.

GM Yereslov strikes again!

It's baloney because the chess notation is wrong. 32...indicates a black move when the rook is stuck on a8. He meant "followed with 33.Rh1."

Quote by Yereslov -"I am always critical" -obviously not of yourself: you can't even write chess notation properly, let along troll!:)

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[alone] troll! :)

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Yereslov wrote:
mashanator wrote:

Grandmaster Yereslov strikes again!

Umm, no.

In my game I played 31. Nf7. That lead to a drawish position.

With computer analysis (not my own) I was able to find this line that gives white an advantage in the endgame.

Don't try to troll on this thread.

Cross out "with" and "I" in the  3rd line.
Wow...who could solve that problem. 20+ plies of "forced" moves that leads to an endgame advantage.

"If 1.40+ for white is not a winning advantage, than I guess this is a valid opening."

I think you mean the other way around....

And yes, it is totally valid, seeing as how you would lose 99% of the time against "best play". Actually, let's make it 99.98324%, shall we?

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crtexxx wrote:
mashanator wrote:
Yereslov wrote:
yeres30 wrote:

What's this baloney "In my game I played 31.Nf7 bxc5 32.Nxh8 followed by 32...Rh1?

How is that baloney? 

Explain.

I didn't look at the position but I'm assuming 32...Rh1 is illegal because the Knight just captured that piece.

GM Yereslov strikes again!

It's baloney because the chess notation is wrong. 32...indicates a black move when the rook is stuck on a8. He meant "followed with 33.Rh1."

Quote by Yereslov -"I am always critical" -obviously not of yourself: you can't even write chess notation properly, let along troll!:)

Is that really the only issue?

Seems pointless to mention if you get the meaning.

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And how am I trolling by posting accurate analysis?

Or maybe I am a troll because I don't automatically bow down to authority... who knows.

My analysis is accurate.

I did not claim "White to play and win."

I said "White to play and gain a winning advantage."

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Yereslov wrote:

And how am I trolling by posting accurate analysis?

Or maybe I am a troll because I don't automatically bow down to authority... who knows.

My analysis is accurate.

I did not claim "White to play and win."

I said "White to play and gain a winning advantage."

No, i don't get the meaning and even an idiot like yourself knows it. You can see my other posts clearly. That's not all.

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Once again, it's not just [(not yours, once again!) Houdini's] lengthy, perfect analysis that comes with no comments nor any explanation of any kind at all.

For sure, you bow down to Houdini's advice instantly. Why? Houdini can't talk to you so it can't communicate anything other than letters and numbers and dots.

The puzzle is especially bad, since there are clearly variations from the solution. This is the instant puzzle killer. The fact that the solution is cold and lifeless makes it even worse. No beautiful sacs or brilliant ideas, just some useless engine analysis that is impossible to comprehend and will increase your playing strength by zero (wait, actually it is -.02384 points).

You also ignored my world open problem. You simply can't do it without your little engine buddy to help you along ;).

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Anyways, I've looked around, and concluded that this must be some sort of gimmick (these threads and all).

Blocked permanently. Of course I will come and check this out...for some entertainment. I'll even post a few more.

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crtexxx wrote:
Yereslov wrote:

And how am I trolling by posting accurate analysis?

Or maybe I am a troll because I don't automatically bow down to authority... who knows.

My analysis is accurate.

I did not claim "White to play and win."

I said "White to play and gain a winning advantage."

No, i don't get the meaning and even an idiot like yourself knows it. You can see my other posts clearly. That's not all.

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Once again, it's not just [(not yours, once again!) Houdini's] lengthy, perfect analysis that comes with no comments nor any explanation of any kind at all.

For sure, you bow down to Houdini's advice instantly. Why? Houdini can't talk to you so it can't communicate anything other than letters and numbers and dots.

The puzzle is especially bad, since there are clearly variations from the solution. This is the instant puzzle killer. The fact that the solution is cold and lifeless makes it even worse. No beautiful sacs or brilliant ideas, just some useless engine analysis that is impossible to comprehend and will increase your playing strength by zero (wait, actually it is -.02384 points).

You also ignored my world open problem. You simply can't do it without your little engine buddy to help you along ;).

You seem to like my attention, since you have replied to every thread I have posted in a span of a few seconds.

And instead of contrubuting somehow, you aim for insults.

Don't you have better things to do?

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By the way, I checked out the other variations. They lose faster.

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Yereslov wrote:
crtexxx wrote:
Yereslov wrote:

And how am I trolling by posting accurate analysis?

Or maybe I am a troll because I don't automatically bow down to authority... who knows.

My analysis is accurate.

I did not claim "White to play and win."

I said "White to play and gain a winning advantage."

No, i don't get the meaning and even an idiot like yourself knows it. You can see my other posts clearly. That's not all.

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Once again, it's not just [(not yours, once again!) Houdini's] lengthy, perfect analysis that comes with no comments nor any explanation of any kind at all.

For sure, you bow down to Houdini's advice instantly. Why? Houdini can't talk to you so it can't communicate anything other than letters and numbers and dots.

The puzzle is especially bad, since there are clearly variations from the solution. This is the instant puzzle killer. The fact that the solution is cold and lifeless makes it even worse. No beautiful sacs or brilliant ideas, just some useless engine analysis that is impossible to comprehend and will increase your playing strength by zero (wait, actually it is -.02384 points).

You also ignored my world open problem. You simply can't do it without your little engine buddy to help you along ;).

You seem to like my attention, since you have replied to every thread I have posted in a span of a few seconds.

And instead of contrubuting somehow, you aim for insults.

Don't you have better things to do?

Yeah I do...as a free chess coach before school starts. But the nature of the work allows me to multitask and arrogant fools like u.

A nice diversion from argument at hand, which you know you have lost.

"you seem to like my attention"-I do since your arguments are totally weak and your posts are hilarious.

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