Ubik42 wrote:
Chuck Norris gets 51 moves before you can declare a draw, and even then you better wear a hockey mask.
..didn't u say "Never heard about her" in the other thread?
What is your opinion about the draw by 3 move repetition rule ? Should it be 2 ?
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Makes sense to me. Sometimes, you play a move and realize it accomplishes nothing, so you return back to the original square. Your opponent should not be able to draw it by returning their piece as well. Only an idiot would immediately repeat the mistake, and that's why it's 3-fold.
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If the best moves are for both players to move their pieces back and forth in response (like one of the games (Game 1 I think) from Carlsen v. Anand), then it should be a draw, which is why such a rule exists.
Idrinkyourhealth wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
Chuck Norris gets 51 moves before you can declare a draw, and even then you better wear a hockey mask.
..didn't u say "Never heard about her" in the other thread?
Quadruple irony. I will need a new trophy shelf soon.
I would rather say: Make repeating a position for the 3rd time an illegal move. Just like placing yourself in check.
@bobyyyy:
I disagree about the rules of chess being "perfect". If they were perfect then white would not have a higher win-percentage.
While I think it is okay that there can be draws, I feel that there should be something that counteracts the first-move-advantage.
teranz0 wrote:
Makes sense to me. Sometimes, you play a move and realize it accomplishes nothing, so you return back to the original square. Your opponent should not be able to draw it by returning their piece as well. Only an idiot would immediately repeat the mistake, and that's why it's 3-fold.
When you said "sometimes you play a move and realize it accomplishes nothing.." you actually confirm that with 2-move-draw rule you would think twice before making moves that "accomplish nothing".
The idea of that rule is that if you reach a position three times, the game did not progress, and therefore it is a draw. Two is not enough. Sometimes you just have to repeat a move in order to gain time on the clock.
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Idrinkyourhealth wrote:
It is unfair to remove the 3 moves draw because there a lot of players that play to draw and that could crush their goal. Although it is fair to think that 3 move draw could be actually 2 because there's no difference in fact.
WRONG! There's are MAJOR differences!
A player may choose to retract his plan and go with plan B. This is one reason not to do 2-fold. At 3-fold, it's assumed that players either can't make progress or neither side intends to risk anything.
In some situations, you'd completely kill many openings. For example, the Ruy Lopez Zaitsev Variation. Many players will try the main line first, 10...Re8, and if White toggles once, he will go with plan B with ...Qd7 instead the second time.
Two-fold is often used to get closer to time control or to up the time in an increment time control!
So 2-fold and 3-fold ain't the same thing by any stretch!
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Chuck Norris gets 51 moves before you can declare a draw, and even then you better wear a hockey mask.