Beating the Ex- Chess Sex Symbol

Submitted by WGM Natalia_Pogonina on Tue, 01/19/2010 at 1:07am.

Men tend to look down on women’s chess, joke about their level and style of play, and also discuss the female players’ looks whenever they have a chance.

Continuing my story about the Russian Superfinal-2009 (Part 1 can be found here), I would like to share with you my Round 2 game against WGM Maria Manakova. Russian-born but currently playing for Serbia, she became relatively well-known in the chess world as “the first female grandmaster to pose nude for a tabloid”.

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WGM Maria Manakova

Maria gained some popularity by spreading spicy pictures of herself and giving provocative interviews, and, along with myself and Almira Skripchenko, has been recognized as one of the most beautiful women chess players in the world. I am actually very ironical about all this fuss, so it was quite entertaining for me to see some newspapers and chess fans comment on our encounter in the fashion of a “battle of the chess sex symbols.”

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WGM Natalia Pogonina (2501) - WGM Marina Manakova (2344)

I have also been aware that GM Evgeny Sveshnikov (yes-yes, the one after whom the Sveshnikov variation has been named!) was assisting Maria in her preparation. Therefore, it was rather easy to predict which variation she was going to play:

 



Including this match, I have played 37 consecutive games without a loss at such strong events as the Russian Superfinal (2008 and 2009), Moscow Open, Women's European Championship, Russian Club Cup. All good things come to an end eventually… Smile

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P.S. Thanks to everyone who is playing in the Pogonina vs. Chess.com game! So far it’s home preparation for me, but I still enjoy analyzing some of the possible alternative continuations. Hope you are also having a great time and learning more about the Najdorf! Btw, it’s not late to join the match in case you haven’t done so already! Wink

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by bobcoljk - 6 months ago
idk Albania
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 8

its amazing i played two girls in the same tournament i won one and lost won they both we ok 

by imagangsta - 6 months ago
indianaolis United States
Member Since: Feb 2010
Member Points: 12

I love your games!  And I love your tactics!  I've been studying your games lately and I find them to be very enjoyable and I learn alot from you....thanx for posting them.

 

P.S.  Your an awesome columnist:-)

by Anas3516 - 7 months ago
KL Malaysia
Member Since: Dec 2009
Member Points: 145

Sure i can't focus playing chess seriously if i challenge her...Embarassedhe he he...

by fireballz - 7 months ago
marz South Africa
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 265

Woman can give you that look:D and then your whole mind, melts:) Who's the champ now!!!!???

by pocoloco-1 - 7 months ago
High Rockies United States
Member Since: Nov 2009
Member Points: 30

I know how this will be taken, but I'll say it anyway.  I'm just an average player.  I worked in children's chess for seven years.  By age 13 or so, we lost most of the  girls.  They just couln't handle the boy's rudeness and agressive attitude.  There were once players who were gentlemen. ( I exclude women because, by and large, they still are considerate.)  Even Bobby Fischer, once the pregame histrionics were over, and the game had started knew how to behave.  Now, If I get an advantage on a player, a depressing percentage of the time, he will start with verbal abuse.  Chess can still be played as if you respect the person across the table.  I intend to keep playing that way.

by MANNY123 - 7 months ago
CHEVERLY,MD. United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 182

WELL,I GUESS THE MONEY WAS RIGHT SO,UNLESS YOUR PAYING HER BILLS,IT SHOULD BE A PERSONAL MATTER.

by StrategyFiend - 7 months ago
Minnesota United States
Member Since: Oct 2009
Member Points: 50

Thanks Natalia, pretty finish.

Ignore the haters, and add Alexandra to your list!

by judass - 7 months ago
Canada
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 131

I feel like watching a crowd of teenager acclaiming the winner of a cat-fight. Seriously, most of this article is either self-promoting or dissing the other player. I have no lesson to give to a GM in chess, but this article clearly isn't about it.

It would be more interesting if you focused on helping chess players instead of entertaining your fanbase.

by RANGARAO - 7 months ago
HYDERABAD India
Member Since: Oct 2009
Member Points: 1

YOU ARE AN EXCEPTIONAL AND INTELLIGENT PLAYER EVER IN WOMENS CIRCUIT.

by Pomz_FromDayOne - 7 months ago
London International
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 203

how good are you at darning socks?

by KiwiJuise - 7 months ago
United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 21

I find Natalia's stereotypes about what "men tend to do" rather exaggerated. Yes, some men do this, but to claim that most men, or men in general "tend to look down on women’s chess, joke about their level and style of play, and also discuss the female players’ looks whenever they have a chance." is outrageous, especially since the only people who could talk down about a WGM's level of play would be the very few Super GM's of higher rating.

I struggle to find the purpose or logic of the first three paragraphs of this article. 

And for the record, I am very opposed to sexism in chess. However, I think resorting to baseless, insulting generalizations about male chess players is not the answer.

by bigfundu - 7 months ago
Chennai India
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 433

Neat! I wish even half of it has been absorbed in :)

by lizardbill - 7 months ago
nanaimo Canada
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 29

the checkmate threat was a real blinder, nice going.

by WGM Natalia_Pogonina - 7 months ago
Saratov Russia
Member Since: Jul 2009
Member Points: 1125

B97 11.0-0 is also playable, but 11.Be3 develops the bishop with a tempo and provokes Black to play Qb6. The complications there are mostly in White's favor (I mean, Black has to be precise to obtain an equal position), so why avoid them?

SukerPuncher333 If I say that this is my home prep, it doesn't mean that it's the one and only line I'm playing. Also, I've got a lot of deviations along the way. Anyway, any pro preparing against me will look through the database and review the games I have played in this variation (as well as others). Therefore, I am not giving any secrets away by saying that I have analysed this before - that's pretty much common wisdom.

by sryiwannadraw - 7 months ago
Austin, Texas United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 217

sdgfdgfcg

by veggiegirlie - 7 months ago
Oberpfaffelbachen International
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 1748

I don't think it was the word "sex" that drew me to this article but the truth behind her words.  Yes, you can see that female chess players (especially novice ones) are not taken seriously.  I've had experiences that have made me discouraged and slightly disenfranchized regarding the game.  Instead of being looked at as a serious opponent, it has been looks or lack of skill that has been the topic that I hear about.

 

When I started playing six months ago I'd only heard of the males within the game. I am so glad to meet more women on this site that share my love of chess as well as refer me to professional female players  that I can look up to and study whenever I hear the debate regarding gender and chess.

Thanks for the article. Have a great day today.

by meiguo - 7 months ago
Nanning China
Member Since: Nov 2009
Member Points: 4

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Can some one tell me why Chess is segregated? I don’t believe there is a valid reason in our advanced society. Should a man concern himself with making the woman cry? I think this young ladies Chess is fantastic, however, I do not believe that she would be quite as successful or rated so high with a deeper pool of opponents. Women being the minority in competitive Chess. Don't get me wrong, this young lady could smoke me in less than 20 moves routinely. I do believe that the barriers of female and male segregated chess should be abolished. The practice is sexist and, as we can see above, only serves to separate the sexes in the endeavor of Chess. Possibly some male GM's would like to step up and pose for a nude rag?

by MSTRKRFT - 7 months ago
Los Angeles United States
Member Since: Oct 2009
Member Points: 1

why are people bringing religion into this? religion is just silly.

and this article seems to be nothing more than just a glorification of the author's own game. the annotations are gag-worthy, especially the last one about how it was a beautiful elegant mate... ugh

by ecumenist - 7 months ago
Painesville, OH United States
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Member Points: 7

Let's be honest. It appears that chess.com couldn't care less if they offend people. As long as they get hits and click-throughs which they can leverage into more ad sales, they're completely content.  There is no excuse for the images posted here to have been left to sully the minds of our young people. Shame on you, chess.com.

by AlmostAChessChampion - 7 months ago
Dolores, Colorado United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 20

oh wow this an amazing post, thanks for the hot pics

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