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TonyH

art of attack is a classic,.. the ideas have been refined in more recent books and by better writers. the section on the classical bishop sacrifice is great though and worth the price. 

a few other good books on attack - Spielmanns art of sacrifice 

Marin's book on attack is great and very clear I would start here as a class player

if you want serious material Aagaard 2 volumes on attack are outstanding but master level on its material

EricFleet

I'm through page 24 and so far there have been analysis errors on almost every game that is shown.

lenslens1

It's worth diving right into the section on the classic bishop sacrifice, but this book requires work to get the most from as it is not superficial and attempts to provide long lines of concrete analysis.

lenslens1
EricFleet wrote:

I'm through page 24 and so far there have been analysis errors on almost every game that is shown.

yup, and there will be analysis errors in almost every game you play, but chess is just like that. This is not a book about an opening variation for a professional grandmaster. 

jack8192

I worked through art of attack and my chess improved, alot.  Haven't played in many years, so I have fotgotten the specific techniques it teaches.  

Currently, I plan to work through it a second time, soon....

Thus, I do recommend it.

TexasPatzer

Once upon a time, many decades ago, I learned chess.  I’m now old.  cry.png  Computers were a new phenomenon and the internet was never heard of.  Books and articles were the main source of information.   I dont think when someone says ‘books are useless’ they are referring to the information.  Today, I can use a great number of electronic methods that are more efficient for learning material.  I have noticed that even the electronic methods of today often mirror an actual book or present the information that was already in a book.   Go up on chessbase website and look at the titles, in many cases, they are electronic versions of a ‘book’ with the same information.

 

I had an old tattered copy of ‘My System’ from 25 years ago,  I never got far because the old school notation and juggling the board and book were too time consuming.  (I had life,wife,kids and career and chess had to take a backseat).  However, one day, I came across a chess e-reader of ‘My System’ for my ipad.  Those are wonderfull, you can read the book and have a mini chessboard follow the notation as you go.  This opened a huge door in my ability to study the game.  I finished it in 2 months and actually felt I absorbed the material much better than when I had to sit and setup the positions on a board or computer.  Even with pgn files, it was cumbersome.  I found this article because this title was in one of the e-readers and I was interested.  IMHO these newer tools will allow many average duffers absorb this material much quicker; however, the information will still always be the same whether its in a book or computer form.

 

As  for the title, Art of Attack, I have had many friends and articles recommend the ‘book’.  I just added it to my e-reader and look forward to peering into its mysteries!

 

LOL, i just posted to an ancient thread happy.png    Forgive me!

BonTheCat
lenslens1 escreveu:
EricFleet wrote:

I'm through page 24 and so far there have been analysis errors on almost every game that is shown.

yup, and there will be analysis errors in almost every game you play, but chess is just like that. This is not a book about an opening variation for a professional grandmaster. 

And who found those errors in analysis, and how? Dr John Nunn, chess GM and an avid user of chess engines to churn out analysis corrections - even books by such giants as Alexander Alekhine, Paul Keres and Mikhail Tal get roughed up considerably by Dr Nunn and his engines.

The real point is that you learn patterns, improving your attacking intuition, which will help you identify promising candidate moves and help you chose suitable plans to initiate attacks.

As a general point, it's worth noting also that most good and great chess books will only be 'good' or 'great' for you once you're at the right development stage to benefit from the information in them. If you start reading 'My System' by Nimzowitsch at a young age or at a low level, you'll struggly enormously to grasp his concepts, most of which are now an integral part of GM chess (Seirawan and Short slag off Nimzowitsch, but if you look at their games, you'll see them employing many of his concepts).

joseph1000000
pfren wrote:

While being oldfashioned, overall it's a great book, a real classic.

Calculation is improved mainly by solving numerous puzzles, but the feeling of the attacking potential of a position cannot be grasped by such means. Regarding that, this book is one of the best you can afford.

Hi,  

Just a curious question for you.  Pfren is a chess player and author.  What his/her first name is?

joseph1000000
  • Thank you   DamonevicSmithlov.

      

yung_guala

I have found that the analysis isn't very accurate even with the corrections.  Several times the analysis provided didn't seem very convincing and I checked with the computer to make sense of it only to find it was wrong.  

jjupiter6

I don't know why people automatically discard a book because the analysis from decades ago isn't as good as a modern computer's analysis. Are you ever going to play someone who is a human stockfish? No.

Westsailor32
pfren wrote:
AnnaZafi wrote:
I dont understand that,

the feeling of the attacking potential of a position cannot be grasped by such means

is this in reference to what transpires before the puzzle begins

It's simple. When solving a puzzle, the existence of a tactical sequence is granted, and you just haveto find it. Over the Board, nobody will hint you that there is a combination here, at a certain moment. You have to sniff it, using the generic attacking principles (complex or not) and your intuition. The Vukovic book can help you improving your "sniffing" a pretty great deal.

Don't know about the book but your premise toward "sniffing puzzles" OTB is well stated

yung_guala
jjupiter6 wrote:

I don't know why people automatically discard a book because the analysis from decades ago isn't as good as a modern computer's analysis. Are you ever going to play someone who is a human stockfish? No.

In one game they sacked a queen for a bishop and gave only a short line of analysis to justify it.  Its not even that its wrong it just seems lazy.  It would be one thing if he gave a page of analysis to justify it and made some mistakes but he constantly will assert spectacular moves are best without much justification. 

jjupiter6

How much justification do you need? Would you be able to refute the moves without engine assistance and within a short time frame?

yung_guala
jjupiter6 wrote:

How much justification do you need? Would you be able to refute the moves without engine assistance and within a short time frame?

Yeah except that logic can be used anywhere.  If I claimed 1. g4 was the best opening move would you be able to refute it without computer analysis in a short time frame?  I'm sorry but if you are claiming its sound to sac a queen for a bishop i'm going to need to see some actual proof.  

AlCzervik

i do not recommend a heart attack.