A Classic Setup

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26th June 2008, 09:23am
#1
by broze
Bath England
Member Since: Nov 2007
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If a player allows you to establish this board position (below, usually when you have the white pieces) is it a good idea to pursue?  Does it lead to boring play or a hypermodern vs. classical battle?  Does it have a name or even occur in any book openings? Any info would be gladly received.


26th June 2008, 09:30am
#2
by Zerrogi
Indiana United States
Member Since: May 2008
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I believe Hypermodern stands for the idea of controlling the center from a distance, or influencing it through fianchettoed bishops and knights.  If this occurs, I bleiev it would be the opposite, lol.

It kinda reminds me of the Italian Game a little.  Sorry, but thats about the best i got.  Try the Opening Explorer, it might be able to asnwer better than I can. 

 If a player lets you get this, and by that I mean seize the center, I'd say do so.  Your pieces are very effective where they are.


26th June 2008, 05:29pm
#3
by broze
Bath England
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Member Points: 729
Zerrogi wrote:

I believe Hypermodern stands for the idea of controlling the center from a distance, or influencing it through fianchettoed bishops and knights.  If this occurs, I bleiev it would be the opposite, lol.


 I sort of meant that to allow white to develop this "classical" position, black could not have very many pawns in the center and therefore a "hypermodern" setup.


26th June 2008, 10:13pm
#4
by Fromper
Boynton Beach, FL United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 403

Back when I first started playing, I saw a web site that showed a position like this and told beginners to aim for it. I've been a solid opening player ever since, even when my opponents get me out of the "book" openings and force me to improvise.

--Fromper


26th June 2008, 10:56pm
#5
by NM tonydal
United States
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I have a friend who does think this is the ideal position for developing.  To me though it's always looked a bit uncoordinated; I'd rather have one of the bishops on e3 (or d3).
28th June 2008, 10:25pm
#6
by Fromper
Boynton Beach, FL United States
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tonydal wrote: I have a friend who does think this is the ideal position for developing.  To me though it's always looked a bit uncoordinated; I'd rather have one of the bishops on e3 (or d3).

I don't think of it so much of as an ideal position. I think of it more as an ideal lesson for beginners. Nobody's ever going to reach this actual position in a game, because black's moves affect where you can go. But using a position like this as a guide to teach beginners to develop all their pieces before trying to attack can be a very useful lesson. As I said above, it worked for me.

--Fromper


28th June 2008, 10:49pm
#7
by AWARDCHESS
Los Angeles United States
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Member Points: 20538
Can I play black that nice position!?
28th June 2008, 10:50pm
#8
by AWARDCHESS
Los Angeles United States
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Member Points: 20538
I mean White, of course!
28th June 2008, 11:02pm
#9
by justice_avocado
Columbus, OH United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 489
any opportunity you get to have a 39 point lead over your opponent...take it
28th June 2008, 11:53pm
#10
by onehandgann
Guatemala
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Member Points: 587
29th June 2008, 12:07am
#11
by onehandgann
Guatemala
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 587

heres another one  by stronger players   It looks like for white to get it blacks approach has to be hypermodern with no early e5 or d5   openings like the pirc and modern. 

http://www.chess.com/games/view.html?id=992609 


 

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