B12: Caro-Kann Defense: Advance Variation, Botvinnik-Carls Defense
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My Opening Invention
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Jun 8, 2012
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Jun 8, 2012
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Well, it's been played in thousands of games before you, so I hardly think you have the right to name it.
kco wrote:
Must be a different opening.
I just made this one up.
ChessisGood wrote:
Well, it's been played in thousands of games before you, so I hardly think you have the right to name it.
I came up with it. I'm going to call it the Yereslov Variation.
Jun 8, 2012
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#8
It is by no means an invention. It is simply an act of plagiarism to say that you created it. You may call it whatever you wish, however, as long as you accept that it will not be officially dubbed the Yereslov.
Jun 8, 2012
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Also, at your level, I doubt that you could fully explain to me the merits of your move when compared to the more standard 3...Bf5.
The only way you could ever get that phrase coined in relation to that opening, would be to become an historically great phenom( Multiple World Champ probably for it to have a chance to stick) and then maybe after time, people will remember you more for it than the guys who currently are credited with its inception as a good line of play. Good luck.
ChessisGood wrote:
Also, at your level, I doubt that you could fully explain to me the merits of your move when compared to the more standard 3...Bf5.
3...Bf5 isn't more standard.
ChristianSoldier007 wrote:
it is vereslov. check the databases
Which database?
They all show different variations.
Jun 8, 2012
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| Move | Games |
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| 3...Bf5 | 6,003 |
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| 3...c5 | 872 |
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| 3...g6 | 105 |
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| 3...Na6 | 80 |
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| 3...e6 | 11 |
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| 3...Qb6 | 11 |
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| 3...h5 | 9 |
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| 3...f6 | 6 |
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| 3...a6 | 2 |
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| 3...b6 | 2 |
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| 3...a5 | 1 |  Hebden, M. - Surtees, M. (2009.11.22) |
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| 3...f5 | 1 |  Evchin Maxim (UKR) - Zigura Oleg (UKR) (2003.??.??) |
ChessisGood wrote:
MoveGames
White Wins
Draws
Black Wins
3...Bf5 6,003 41.2% 28.5% 30.3% 3...c5 872 40.7% 27.9% 31.4% 3...g6 105 49.5% 24.8% 25.7% 3...Na6 80 48.8% 21.3% 30% 3...e6 11 72.7% 18.2% 3...Qb6 11 27.3% 45.5% 27.3% 3...h5 9 77.8% 11.1% 11.1% 3...f6 6 33.3% 16.7% 50% 3...a6 2 50% 50% 3...b6 2 50% 50% 3...a5 1 Hebden, M. - Surtees, M. (2009.11.22) 3...f5 1 Evchin Maxim (UKR) - Zigura Oleg (UKR) (2003.??.??)I still think 3...c5 is more common. A database doesn't have every single game.
It does use different names than my Chessmaster uses, which I find puzzling. I will assume that both names are valid and its a matter of preference for some reason, as Yereslov is trying to do and get us to follow suit, but without the accolades to pull it off.
nameno1had wrote:
It does use different names than my Chessmaster uses, which I find puzzling. I will assume that both names are valid and its a matter of preference for some reason, as Yereslov is trying to do and get us to follow suit, but without the accolades to pull it off.
The first one to discover it gets to name it.
I tend to think others actually take the time to research for a line that a particular player plays. The player himself doesn't go look everyone. See what I came up with, especially if he is really good and has really good competition(the only players that openings and variations are named for) because none of them want to advertise or be dumb enough to do the work for their opponents to make it easier to study you. Hence the guy doing the research needs a name for the line and what could be more fitting than the guys name who uses it?
Jun 8, 2012
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| 3... Bf5 | 17123 | 2012 |
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| 3... c5 | 2331 | 2012 |
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| 3... g6 | 372 | 2011 |
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| 3... e6 | 235 | 2011 |
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| 3... Na6 | 202 | 2011 |
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| 3... Qb6 | 41 | 2011 |
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| 3... f6 | 35 | 2009 |
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| 3... h5 | 34 | 2007 |
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| 3... a6 | 12 | 2007 |
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| 3... Nd7 | 10 | 2007 |
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| 3... b6 | 6 | 2006 |
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| 3... Qa5+ | 4 | 2009 |
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| 3... h6 | 3 | 2005 |
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| 3... Nh6 | 2 | 2001 |
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| 3... f5 | 2 | 2003 |
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| 3... Be6 | 1-0, Wolosz (1853) vs. Rozsa | ||||||||||||||||||
| 3... Bd7 | 1-0, Malbran (2295) vs. Dos Santos (2209) | ||||||||||||||||||
Jun 8, 2012
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Can you show me a single reliable database that shows more games with 3...c5 than 3...Bf5? I doubt it. Also, why do you want it to be so popular? I thought you were trying to name it, thus meaning you played it first.
Tell me what you guys think of my new variation.
I'll call it the Yereslov Variation.