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Candypants

I play the accelerated dragon with great success. However when I face maroczy bind against a strong opponent (2200+ elo) I get squeezed slowly and I am having trouble finding some active plans. Is there anyway to spice things up and make things crazy?

I am very strong in tactics and complex positions but the lack of space I get from maroczy isnt really my way to play. I am thinking about switching to the normal dragon just so I can avoid maroczy but I like accelerated dragon more except for the maroczy bind.

Could anyone please give me some ideas how to get some active plans in the maroczy? :)

CHCL

Maroczy bind

Pacifique

If you (with your rating) are "very strong in tactics and complex positions" then I`ll start to feel like Kasparov... Laughing

jambyvedar

The variation you are facing is where white will put his pawn on  b3 and f3 right?

ghostofmaroczy

Do you already know this variation?

BMcC333

This is the best line I have seen. The line is from Bent Larsen, one of the greatest Acc Dragon players of all time. Sergey made it look easy but he did not have many winning chances.

[Event "ICC 78 30 u"]
[Site "US Chess League"]
[Date "2007.10.17"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Erenburg-BAL"]
[Black "Kudrin-PHI"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ICCResult "Game drawn by repetition"]
[WhiteElo "2605"]
[BlackElo "2605"]
[Opening "Sicilian: accelerated fianchetto, Maróczy bind, 6.Be3"]
[ECO "B38"]
[NIC "SI.33"]
[Time "19:29:20"]
[TimeControl "4680+30"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. c4 Bg7 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Nc3 d6 8.
Be2 O-O 9. O-O Bd7 10. Qd2 Nxd4 11. Bxd4 Bc6 12. f3 a5 13. b3 Nd7 14. Be3
Nc5 15. Rab1 Qb6 16. Rfc1 Qb4 17. Rc2 Rfc8 18. Qc1 Qb6 19. Bf1 Qd8 20. Qd2
h5 21. Ne2 Kh7 22. Nf4 Bh6 23. Rd1 Qf8 24. Qf2 Qg7 25. g3 Qf6 26. Bh3 Rd8
27. Rcd2 Ne6 28. Nxe6 fxe6 29. Bxh6 Kxh6 30. c5 e5 31. cxd6 Rxd6 32. Rxd6
exd6 33. Qd2+ Kh7 34. Bg2 a4 35. Qxd6 Qxd6 36. Rxd6 axb3 37. axb3 Ra1+ 38.
Kf2 Ra2+ 39. Kg1 Ra1+ 40. Kf2 Ra2+ 41. Kg1 Ra1+ {Game drawn by repetition}
1/2-1/2

Candypants

i know variation ghostofmaroczy posted (i still dont like my game as black) but what if:

SimonWebbsTiger

there is a perhaps dubious idea involving Ng8-h6 with the idea of f7-f5. Spassky played it from time to time.

Bent Larsen is always good for ideas, whilst Petrosian had a knack of playing both sides!

blake78613
SimonWebbsTiger wrote:

there is a perhaps dubious idea involving Ng8-h6 with the idea of f7-f5. Spassky played it from time to time.

Bent Larsen is always good for ideas, whilst Petrosian had a knack of playing both sides!

I recall Spassy played against it.  I think Soltis  called it the Furman debind.

knightrider25

Some ideas from a book by David Levy & Kevin O'Connell: 1) black plays ...f5 pawn break; game example is Furman vs Spassky USSR 1957 - Spassky played f5 on move 8 putting pressure on white's center and black had an active position by move 13, with a winning attack by move 20. White resigned on move 24. Find game on www.chessgames.com or by google-ing. Another idea from the book follows in separate post.

knightrider25

Another idea from the book by David Levy & Kevin O'Connell suggested ...b5  as the most successful (at least at that time) pawn advance against the MB with a black KB fianchetto. Game examples: Cardoso vs Adorjan 1975 and Andersson vs Najdorf 1971.  Find games on www.chessgames.com or by google-ing.

knightrider25

Also you might be interested in the 5 part article by Tim Taylor "How to Beat a Grandmaster" on www.jeremysilman.com. He writes about his agony in playing the accelerated dragon against the MB while in a GM norm event in Budapest. It might not be the answer to your problem, but it is good reading. Hope the old games and the Taylor aritcle are inspiring to you.

Natalia_Pogonina

Maroczy bind is the reason why so few strong players employ the Accelerated Dragon. White has the upper hand there...

blake78613

One of the main ideas for Black is to make it to the endgame when White's darksquare weakness becomes a real liability.   One of Black's goals is to exchange his dark square bishop.  Some White players foolishly are very helpful here and will play bishop to h6 with the Queen on d2 and then wonder why they lost.

Baddbishop

Probably need another variation against stronger players....

jambyvedar
Natalia_Pogonina wrote:

Maroczy bind is the reason why so few strong players employ the Accelerated Dragon. White has the upper hand there...

Yup, but I found it funny that authors Suba and Watson in their books make it as  MB is not a big deal..Or perhaps, I can't remember correct, there MB example might not be against the Accelerated Dragon...

ArtyTheBull
maelith wrote:
Natalia_Pogonina wrote:

Maroczy bind is the reason why so few strong players employ the Accelerated Dragon. White has the upper hand there...

Yup, but I found it funny that authors Suba and Watson in their books make it as  MB is not a big deal..Or perhaps, I can't remember correct, there MB example might not be against the Accelerated Dragon...

Suba's a devoted hedgehogger!  You don't carve out a career as that sort of player unless you like the types of positions black gets in the bind.

pps

i play accelerated dragon a long time and the moroczy bind has been over a hundred years and always people thought white was bett because of the extra space but when people play it they have no play black is without weakness so they try the yugoslav attack and black can't comebat it but thanks to larsen no black has a plan and white non i recommend not to read books becuase they are bullshit insted to look at this games http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1308097

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?pid=11227&playercomp=black&eco=B38

Schloopka

If someone plays it often, play Rossolimo. 

OrcWarrior
Schloopka wrote:

If someone plays it often, play Rossolimo. 

Sense.  This does not make it.