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But white looks more developed to me at the conter though.
White looks good in the center I agree. But I also think this pawns could become weak since they are hanging pawns (that means they are a pair of pawns that are advanced and disconnected from the other pawns).
Petroff Defence Refuted...
@D_for_DJ Wow! :-O I'm going to tackle the Cochrane in the near future for sure...
@Zephyl 19.d5 is possible but then Black has 19...Na5 with the idea of 20.Qa5 Qf4 or 20.Nd4 Qf6.
Thanks for your input, guys! :)
i follow this line when I play as white against the Petrov.
black's active piece play gives equality
I quite like chesshole's line. I have a line of the Petrov that I looked into after it featured in a 'Deathmatch' quite heavily.
I always thought that White got really active pieces in exchange for the doubled pawns and is quite fun to play.
Indeed. After the lemon 5.Bc4+? Black will of course reply 5...d5! 6.ed5 Bd6, and the game won't last long.
Won't there be some endgames where black has to use 30-40 moves before the extra piece forces white to resign?
White does not look so passive.
no but the center requires maintainence and pushing for a win creates chances for black to play for a win as wellits a dynamically equal position with chances for both sides to play for all results
Wait, to who's favor p?
Black of course. Just count.
Before all that, white does have to put his king somewhere (the one at f7 is perfectly safe, the fat pawn at c4 does not threaten him at all). If he castles short, then all Black has to do is solve a rather easy exercise on the classical bishop sacrifice at h2. In any case, white can only dream of an endgame.
@ChessHole boring! Nigel Short said FIDE should create a rule where players have to pay a fine for playing such boring atrocities. But of course that's an excellent strategy to use against your opponents. Frustrate them from the beginning. I shall address that variation in the coming weeks.
@MAPearson Funky. I like it!
@pfren excellent analysis. here it is in board form:
@zephyl I agree with Richie&Oprah. Black is simply active. Example with some natural moves and Houdini's help:
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Wow guys that thread is awesome. I like to play the Petroff as black, those lines you post here are very informative and the explanations you give are easy to understand. Thanks for helping to understand the opening on a deeper level!
well, i would not move 23 bxh5 without capturing c6 first, then i'd have two hanging pawns to target, h5 and a7 respectively. 2nd diagram on quote 21 eh?
...you'd then have the pawn on g2 to defend, so would gain no advantage.
@Zephyl, I really enjoy your willingness to contribute but I deleted your post about memorizing openings being bad. Instead I put up this link to your thread: http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/modern-vs-classic-chess-play
I don't dislike the idea, in fact I really enjoy Chess 960 but please remember to say on topic. I'm not interested in the topic but some people will be. It reminds me of the man at the corner store who always talks about how in the old days, there was no internet and life was better.
And please try to create your own board and show your analysis so that we can see what you are talking about. Your last comment ("Well, you can advance f4, let queen worry about defense eh") is somewhat difficult to decipher and might be difficult for some to follow. A board will help a lot.
@Effdeh thanks, man! my idea is very simple. just one line a day so that I don't overwhelm my students or my own memory.
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