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House-of-Usher

I'm searching for an aggressive gambit line against 1.e4 and I found the Schliemann-Jaenisch Gambit to look quite interesting. Does someone play it occasuinally? Do you know interesting lines or traps in it?

As the game Topalov - Radjabov proves it's quite playable, so I look forward to some suggestions and interesting ideas


Absurd
I use it occasionally, but I don't really know any theory behind it (explaining my wildly variable results with it). One theme is to try to prove that the White Bishop is misplaced on b5, which seemed an interesting idea to play around in the first few moves.
GreenLaser
In 1966, I met the chess champion of Arkansas when he came to work in New York. We often played 5 minute chess. He played the Schliemann Defense. The Topalov-Radjabov game cited avoided what has been the main line. Anyone who intends to play the Schliemann should look it up in opening manuals. More detail was provided in Winning With the Schliemann by Michael Tseitlin (1991). Look for a database of Schliemann Defense games online that you can download. If you have a large database, it should already have what you need to start with. The advantage of starting with Tseitlin's book is that it has explanations and evaluations. Do not expect the bishop on b5 to be misplaced on principle.
Absurd
Thanks for that, GreenLaser. Indeed, that Bishop isn't always going to be misplaced, but it's a theme to watch for using the opening.
KillaBeez
The quiet d3 is probably the most practical response to the Schliemann.  You don't have to learn as much theory as Nc3 and both give White a slight advantage.
KillaBeez
If you ever play a gambit against Bc4, you might try the Two Knights very double edged and theoretical overall.  The Schliemann is interesting and there are still questions on whether or not it is sound.  This is a Vienna Game with a Bb4 thrown in which does not help the other player to a certain extent.
House-of-Usher
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shiggsyo
usher wrote:

yes, I guess I'll try out the Schliemann and the two knights sometime as they seem to fit my favor for aggressive openings :) up to now I tried the dragon since it provides some pretty nice games sometime- unfortunately it invites my opponent to play the closed sicilian or some other rather positional variations with short castle etc.

So how does the Schliemann differ from the Vienna Game?


The Vienna Game is different in that it's not even a gambit! Tongue out

You may be thinking of the Hamppe-Muzio Gambit, though.

I'm sorry I don't really know more about this gambit.


House-of-Usher

Does someone know some interesting traps in it? What are your experiences OTB, did you ever got to play the main line?


House-of-Usher

here's the reason white does not capture the pawn

ups, the eposition is =+ not += 

 

 

 

 

 

 And here white tries to win the other pawn


House-of-Usher

Ok, I think after you put the knight back home Qg5 looks promising, you will anyway get good compensation for the pawn, as long as you're aware of the Qh4 checks.

To your other question:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Does someone know about notable games in these variations?