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Scotch Gambit, weird line.


  • 15 months ago · Quote · #1

    Zigwurst

    Scotch Gambit - 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4

    I am having trouble with the line after 4...Bc5 5.c3 d3. I always achieve rubbish positions and I cannot figure out why.



  • 15 months ago · Quote · #2

    ZubaeerAkhtar

    Try 6.Qxd3. Try to get your pieces aimed at the kingside and attack rapidly, using the semi-open e-file to your advantage.

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #3

    Gordon1962

    Why not try b4.  Looks solid.

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #4

    Ishan01

    Here b4 is solid and it shows that you are in a good shape to attack the kingside.It also advances the b-pawn and may be useful to put pressure on the kingside.After b4 you will play o-o or Qd3 gaining a very good position and advanced development in the middlegame.After Qd3,it is good to castle and play Bf4 and then Nd2,which will complete your development quickly and u will have nice chances to win.Hope this satisfiesSmile 

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #5

    chuey-chu

    u should take with the queen. im learning the scoth gambit rite now and my coach told me 2 do that in that position

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #6

    Zigwurst

    Are there any lines that you could give me involving b4? Such as:

    6.b4 Be7 (6...Bb6 7.a4) 7.Bf4 Nf6 8.e5 Ng4 9.Qxd3

    Does this look good? There are probably improvements to this.

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #7

    Gordon1962

    The database shows that after b4 Bb6 is by far the most likely.  Now you have a choice, of course.

    7. a4 looks favorite but then after 7. a4 a6 the database favours black.  So after some analysis Qxd3 looks very good but it isn't in the database.

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #8

    Zigwurst

    What would you recommend?

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #9

    doodledoo3

    Why didn't back take the pawn? He would lose that pawn anyway why just let white take? And I think castles would be better because nothing can protect that pawn. You also speed up your development. 

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #11

    Zigwurst

    So we can just wait to recapture while completing development? That sounds logical.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #13

    Zigwurst

    So White should continue with Bf4, Nbd2-Nb3, b4, a4 and play on the queenside?

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #14

    Fredrocke

    I simply take with Qd3, the Queen can't be attacked so easily, and you threaten bxf7

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #16

    blitzjoker

    pfren wrote:

    5...d3 is fairly unambitious, yet a perfectly good move. Most flexible is probably 6.0-0 (capturing the d3 pawn can wait), yet after 6...d6 Black has little to fear. Surely enough 5...d3 is a perfectly logical positional approach, which does not deserve the "?!" evaluation.

    In short, I do not think white has any advantage- which is to be expected when playing a suboptimal opening.

    Statistics in such unpopular openings are meaningless- they are mainly based on patzer games.

    We're mainly patzers here though, so the stats still mean a bit :-)

    You are right of course that this is a suboptimal opening, but I play it a lot as it leads to some entertaining games.

    Did you see the Giri game last night pfren? Gives hope to us all...


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