Sicilian - Perenyi Attack

Hi, does anyone here have any experience with the Perenyi Attack as white against the Najdorf - Scheveningen

Every time had the opportunity to play it so far, I've won, and the same seems to go for pretty much all the GM games in which it's been played. There aren't many of them, though, probably because it's so risky for both sides. If you want an ultra-sharp opening that gives plenty of winning chances, this is the one for you!

Here's a game in which I played the signature g4 move, here on Chess.com. Black declined with h6, but it still left me with a big attack.

Also, here's a GM game in which Shirov blasts Polgar off the board:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1111277

Any thoughts/advice/warnings?

Actually, here's an even better page on chessgames.com, where someone's compiled a collection of GM wins with the Perenyi. The Polgar win over Anand is pretty famous, apparently, and I can vouch for the Shirov win over Van Wely being very nicely played indeed.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1005876

Hello,

I think somebody is running a tournament in this line. In your game 9...BxN is a grim move, but can't say I would enjoy playing black's position in any case.

I think 7...h6 is a good move, it was always Kasparov's prefered method of dealing with g4, avoiding Nf6 decentralised. The elite players don't play e5 against 8Bg2. They prefer 8...g5 followed by Nd7-Ne5.

Hello,

Nice game. I am sure you know a lot more about this gambit than I do, because I don't play this line for either side in OTB games. My impression is that black has a horredenous task staying alive in this line. Would much prefer playing 7...h6.

Thought about this black can avoid this attack simply if he leaves out e6 and in 6th move 6... Ng4?

yep mf - 6...Ng4 or 6...e5 and there's no Perenyi

If you're going to dig up a year old thread to make a remark like this, couldn't you just say "You can avoid this simply by playing 1...e5" ?

Sure, black isn't forced to play this opening, but they were talking about this one.

But thanks for giving us a second chance to see those games. Good grief. I'll never play like that, white or black.

7...h5!? is also an interesting try :)

Well, Scarblac, I think mf's remark makes sense, especially if he is trying to learn the Scheveninguen or the Najdorf.

For example, black players may ask themselves : how am I going to meet the popular 6.Be3 English attack ? It's good to know that if you play 6...e6 you can run into something like this, which gives you a good reason to choose another 6th move

That would make sense in a thread "How to play the Najdorf as Black", not in one "How to play the Perenyi as White".

This brings back memories...

ouachita: 8. Bc1 seems an unusual approach - I suppose the advantage comes from the pawn on h6 representing a target, and the knight on g4 being misplaced, right?

I can't really think why White would want to play Bc1 anyway. There isn't really a concrete justification for putting it back on its starting square after three moves. I'd have thought Bd2 would be a better choice as well.

ouachita, why would white want to retreat the Bishop in the second line, rather than play 6.Be2 ?

Glad you saw the light ;)

Last time I checked, to white conduct an attack black must also participate

The Perenyi is an extremely concrete line that lends itself to engine analysis. 

'd have to check, but I suspect that since this thread was created, there's been a concrete line that either gives White a clear edge or Black equality in the Perenyi. I think it's far more likely to be the former since some of the people who were playing the Perenyi as Black a decade ago have switched to other openings.