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Solid responses against English and Bird opening?

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FearlessPawns

I'd like to hear about your experiences about solid responses against English and Bird openings.

helltank

I usually play this line in the English:



FearlessPawns

Is an English symetrical variation. And starts like a Caro-Kann until 3rd move. Seems reasonable to me.

-BEES-

You can transpose into the Tarrasch defence against the English. I generally go with From's Gambit against Bird. But you have to be prepared for King's Gambit with Black if you play e5.

duck_and_cover

Against the Bird, just play a reversed mainline Dutch: 1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 g6.

White's extra tempo doesn't turn the Dutch Defence into an attacking weapon.

theidoogy

bermen against english, dutch against bird, just the most solid moves to go with in a flank opening. From there, you can go to any direction you want, if it's controlling the center, fianchetto, knights, and etc.

Bill_C

Anglo-indian now against the English (I have a nice 3 minute win against my friend in Portland when we raided the PSU cafeteria on a Wednesday night)

Against the Bird, I will simply try for the reversed Dutch and take my chances, especially if White is Kind enough to let me get Bg4 in after developing his Knight.

Bill_C

I will say that opening scheme for Black does not seem to be for the faint of heart for sure. I have gone wrong in it about as many times as I have gone right LOL.

Irontiger

@helltank (#2) : one day, White will play 6.Nxe5 and you will understand why you cannot play it. Yo do not lose a pawn, but you lose a central pawn, the pair of bishop, and create a monster on g2.