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flagging : Is it unethical or part of the game

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BirminghamSkies

Nothing wrong with it. Time control is part of the game. If I had an hour per move, and my opponent had 5 minutes total, I could probably beat grandmasters rated much higher than me. If you're in a "winning position", then convert to a win.

Blueshirt

Time is the 17th piece... in short games it can be as powerful as a Queen if used right!

 

 

CraigIreland

If a player loses on time it's because they took too long thinking about their moves. Blaming the opponent for that is self-defeating. It's better to learn from it and not to fall far enough behind on time that you lose from a winning position, in future.

tygxc

#1
No, flagging is not part of the game.
All FIDE competitions are with increment.
Standard time controls are 90|30, 15|10, 3|2.

archaja

what does flagging have to do with online chess? It´s about time control and in OTB you have also a clock! Or do you wanna go back to the times where games lasted for 20 hours till one of the opponents just fell to the floor? If you loose on time, you loose on time, no matter what is on the board. And if you´ve a queen and a rook more than your opponent and he mates you with a pawn and a rook or something it´s also over. Clock is a part of the game as everythig else.

3M54Kalibr
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
I think anyone who complains about losing on time is a whiner. You know the rules and you accept them when you hit play. If they don’t give you enough time to think, then choose a longer time control. You’re not going to get flagged if you manage your time, though you may lose because you didn’t have time to calculate well.

In principle you r right of course but you basically force me to lose on time or retire from chess. !sadge

3M54Kalibr

Ik it's offtopic but why you can't use different alphabets e.g. kyrillic? Technically it should be possible I guess.

TheKingOfHolborn

It's not a binary thing. If your opponent has wasted too much time thinking then you're entitled to win on time.

Where it becomes bad for the game - particularly online - is a scenario where one side is clearly lost, times are similar but there's not enough time for a checkmate.

At this point, the losing player has nothing to lose so can just play mindlessly. Therefore it simply becomes a drag race, and as so little time goes into thinking about the moves, internet connection speed can end up determining the winner.

medelpad
Flagging is okay to do and if you find it annoying play 3+2 instead
AshwinRaj9780
rishabh11great wrote:

flagging is unfair i hate it . its so stupid

DustyBryant
rishabh11great wrote:

Yes, it is, it was and it will remain an unenthical part of the game, but if your opponent decides to play an non increment game, then HE HAS NO DAMN right to say anything to say you after getting flagged.

If someone has "no right to say anything" about it then it would seem to not be unethical. Presumably your right to complain would only be about things which are unethical.

rishabh11great

These comments are from years ago💀

rishabh11great

Flagging is just a part of the game, not good, not bad, just a part of the game.

putshort
Flag the necro please
BadBelay

this whole discussion is clickbait. the answer is obvious.

aken888

yes

MaetsNori

Don't play speed chess if you're going to whine about flagging.

That's like jumping into a knife fight and shouting "No fair!" if you get stabbed.

Sobrukai
MaetsNori wrote:

Don't play speed chess if you're going to whine about flagging.

That's like jumping into a knife fight and shouting "No fair!" if you get stabbed.

Excellent point

blueemu

Former World Chess Champion Aleksandr Alekhine once said that "a chess player who complains that he only lost the game because his clock ran out, is as much at fault as a motorist who complains that they only had a road accident because they were drunk".

In addition to being a world-class chess player, Alekhine was also a world-class drunkard.

Just sayin'.

putshort
If I am playing against a higher rated player and I have a totally lost position then I will offer a draw before I start my flagging strategy. Not only does it feel good when they accept it so early on, it feels so much better and it’s so funny when they flag after refusing the draw. Totally worth it either way!!