What against the Dragon?

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cferrel

Yougslav attack is the best reaction to a sicilian dragon.

InfiniteFlash
pfren wrote:

The current trend is the 9.g4 variation, where black has quite a few problems to solve currently.

It is quite ironic, that when i played 1.e4, i specialized in this variation BEFORE it was popular.

Mandy711

Study the Alapin (2. c3). It's the best anti SD strategy and easy to learn too.

ChessinBlackandWhite
pfren wrote:

The current trend is the 9.g4 variation, where black has quite a few problems to solve currently.

that is in reference to the Yugaslavcorrect?

atarw
pfren wrote:

The current trend is the 9.g4 variation, where black has quite a few problems to solve currently.

It may cause problems, but it isn't a refute.


Actually, it may not cause problems at all.

atarw
chessking775 wrote:

Yugoslav attack is really a good attack towards the dragon. The main point of it, is that your kingside pawns are going to attack his/her king. while hes trying for counterattack on the queenside, white already has the attack and is ready to open up the position by h4,h5 etc.

True, but Black's attack is atually equal in force. It just starts a little slower than White's attack. If Black had the first move, it would be over for White. Lets look at a common line between amateurs I get alot.

pfren
DaBigOne wrote:

Actually, it may not cause problems at all.

Indeed, if white is dumb enough to play 12.g5? when misplacing the knight at h7 isn't forced, then black "may have no problems at all".

The other three logical replies are much better: either the simple 12.Nd5 with a typical mild positional bind, or 12.0-0-0, or finally 12.gh5 Nxh5 13.Bxg7 Kxg7, when black is certainly not that fine, since he can't prevent a timely f4-f5.

pfren

Open Dragon lines with g2-g3 are objectively equal, but far from harmless and rather easy to handle, without knowing much theory.

BattleManager

9.g4 in the Yugoslav is quite trendy now and also 10.Qe1(after 9.0-0-0) seems to give some success for white.

pfren
BattleManager wrote:

9.g4 in the Yugoslav is quite trendy now and also 10.Qe1(after 9.0-0-0) seems to give some success for white.

10.Qe1 is an extremely safe way to play for a white advantage, but it seems to me that Black should hold in the mainline without big trouble:

The man playing white is an IM (Greek champion for second consecutive year) and black an old student of mine, and a GM.

That said, Black's winning chances are less than minimal- factly, no bigger than in the Ruy Marshall mainlines. The difference is that here Black pays a certain risk fee, while in the Marshall this fee is practically zero.

ChessinBlackandWhite

I have never played an anti sicilian against him so I do not know what he would play. With the dragon I have some games but not many, just the knowledge that he always plays the dragon. I think I am going to look into the closed sicilian and also the yugoslav. if i dont feel ready with a week until the match then I will focus on the closed sicilian and play that. If my studies of the yugaslav go well in the weeks leading into the match than I will play that. In any case I will have two new opening in my pocket for future games, thanks again for all the help guys. I am bound to post a few more questions in the next month or so as I prepare 

atarw
pfren wrote:
DaBigOne wrote:

Actually, it may not cause problems at all.

Indeed, if white is dumb enough to play 12.g5? when misplacing the knight at h7 isn't forced, then black "may have no problems at all".

The other three logical replies are much better: either the simple 12.Nd5 with a typical mild positional bind, or 12.0-0-0, or finally 12.gh5 Nxh5 13.Bxg7 Kxg7, when black is certainly not that fine, since he can't prevent a timely f4-f5.

Houdini seems to like it

pfren
DaBigOne wrote:

Houdini seems to like it

Hardly surprising. Houdini needs aid suggesting good moves- on autopilot he's suggesting rubbish as good a lot of the time.

I am playing centaur chess, and most of my CC wins are busts of the Houdini/ name your engine here "best" lines.

Houdini is a very valuable tool, but it does have a problem: He does not understand chess- he just calculates tactical variations, which are not always conclusive.

A_State_of_Trance

Play the Excalibur opening. King Arthur used it to slay numerous dragons to bring peace and prosperity to Avalon.

ChessinBlackandWhite

Would it be possible for you to show me what you mean in reference to my games? I do not want to take up too much of your time

I will look into that variation next week, thaks!