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I want to start using the Grunfeld defence as my main weapon against 1.d4, but I am unsure of how I should approach the game if my opponent doesn't let me go into a Grunfeld. Say my opponent chooses to go for a king side fianchetto before developing knight to c3. Or if he goes for a cole, torre or london system with a pawn on c3. How do I transition then?
KID works well against both the London System and against K-side fianchetto QP openings. Granted... it's not a Gruenfeld, but you can't guarantee reaching your favorite system against all possible opposing move-orders.
Or if he simply does the 1 c4 Nf6 2 Nc3 g6 3 e4 thing...
Hmm ok, so it's a KID I need alongside the Grunfeld? Feels like a lot of preperation just for 1.d4 and c4 as black :/ But I guess it is worth it if I actually enjoy the games that follow.
Drylo, i would recommend the KID against everything that tries to avoid the grunfeld like you are trying to play. They work well, and getting a mixture of openings can only be beneficial.
Here's a miniature that I played recently in a KID against a K-side fianchetto QP opening. My opponent was rated 2044 :
thats interesting: a leningrad dutch setup w/o f5 in.
Play a Grunfeld anyways and go d5.
Aha! Complete obliviousness (a splendid idea!).
I've ordered the book "The Safest Grunfeld" and hope that might give me some recomendations of lines I can play vs anti-Grunfeld systems. I've also thought about just throwing out d5 anyway in a lot of situations like u said, but I'm also considering going for a KID if I have to. thanks for the miniature blueemo!
I think 1.d4 Nf6 2.almost anything other than c4 or e4 can be met by 2...d5 with reasonable chances for a good game. 2.g4 Nxg4 is pretty sound, and 2.Bg5 Ne4 or 2...c5 or almost any other legal move is also good. 2.Bf4 d5 leads to quite nice positions for Black who plays c5 and usually follows up with Qb6. The only reason I don't like this move-order as much as 1...d5 (which has the drawback of not letting you play the Grunfeld) is that I would like to play 1.d4 d5 2.e3 Bf5. 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.e3 Bf5 is good of course, and 2.e3 can be well-met by other moves (usually the Colle setup is not good against any Black setup involving a kingside fianchetto anyway so this isn't a huge problem)
2.Nc3 can transpose to a lot of 1.e4 openings but 2...d5 is critical here too. 2.g3 d5 3.Bg2 g6 4.c4 c6 is pretty solid.
Prepare KID opening when you like to play Grunfeld as Black, because White can't cooperate and play KID systems.
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