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Well, after perusing many of the many comments on the new design, I think there are clearly people who really like it and others who wish it were an April Fool's joke (See Chessplayer 11's comment)(Quote 467) and that we would go back to the first way tomorrow!! There are also those inbetween folks who are trying to work on specific changes.
Anyway, I wish that players would be given a choice -- either they can use the old or go with the new. Would it be possible to have two co-existing versions? That might make everyone happy!
Dear Erik, I overall like the new site layout but some things that dissapeared i think are a shame:what bother me isthat you can only see your own basic statistics. i think this is a serious downgrade! it's not very useful for myself to see my average time/move or my average opponent rating. this is useful for the people i am playing with. I don't understand why this was changed. I can see my opponent's birthday but not how many games they played? Which do you think people care most about?Just my thoughts,
thanks for reading
I can see all that information for myself and for others. I can see yours for example:
It has been mentioned in a few places by erik that there won't be two different versions.
Martin_Stahl, I hope he (Eric)will change his mind!!!! Why not make everyone happy? Is there anything wrong with that? I haven't been a paying player yet, but if they would keep the old way, I could try to afford it.
Do you remember New Coke versus Coke Classic? In the end, The Coca Cola Company ultimately went back to their old formula.
I would write this in color but not an option now.
Just need some time to use to it
Well, there were a lot of changes, not all just visual ones and the design changes included updates to support future features. The best place to read erik's thoughts on the redesign are on his news post about it.
The decision was made to create a new design, using more modern web technologies, rather than trying to update the old one. Sure, they might have been able to update the old one to do what they wanted but it likely would have taken more effort and more money to do that and there still would be bugs to fix.
And the ability to support two designs would require additional resources to maintain, including recoding the old design anyway. It's much easier and cost effective to only maintain one set of code and this is the design erik has chosen.
The earlier point wasn't that it's impossible to find the information about a particular opponent but that getting there is longer than it ought to be given how important this is for many (most?) chess players.
Right now, I can get to someone's birthday in 1 click (on "About Me") but it takes me multiple clicks + scrolling + (not the least) remembering how to do it (!) in order to find someone's game statistics. Count for yourself and pay attention while doing it -- as if you didn't know how to do it but had to figure it out. That's the point.
Usability is not the same as possibility -- it's about ease of use, not eventual discovery of what you really need to use.
In the Speed Vote chess HQ group today, it was advised that a vote chess game was drawn even though only 1 person out of the 6 players voting actually voted to accept the draw. The other 5 did not accept, but they didn't click on VOTE REJECT DRAW either, and hence the result was the team had accepted the draw.. even though it's not what they wanted. They wanted to play on. Why would a team be forced a draw if the majority didn't hit ACCEPT DRAW? If it's going to default you would expect it to default to the draw being rejected and the game continuing if not enough players clicked on ACCEPT DRAW. This didn't happen in vote chess games on the old site. Is this a bug or a new condition for drawing vs. not drawing? A lot of teams are going to get caught out with this change.
I agree _Valentin_, one would expect with progress there would be increased ease, not take longer to get to get to the links/info you're searching for. The former one would call improvements/progress, the latter would be classed as a step backwards.
But on a positive Erik is listening and trying to accommodate and make improvements as much as he can to add ease for members, so at the end of the day if the site keeps improving in ease and with less bugs over the coming days/weeks/months then we should be content/happy and we can then view the upgrade as progress. I don't know how he is managing to keep up with all the forums and notes though, but somehow he is... very impressive!
Not sure whether this issue has been noted.
I am unable to post comments (like this) from my ipad.
Ian, what iPad browser are you using? Posting comments works fine for me from the most recent Safari version, but not from my preferred iPad browser, Atomic Web Browser, unless I tell AWB to pretend that it's the desktop version of "Firefox 5", then it works. Otherwise, the comment box fails to appear, and only the spinning wheel spins endlessly.
Maybe we need Chess Compass soon.
the endless quiz shows an error when you try to open the leaderboard
Since the new site started I have been getting several complaints that my bishop does not show on my board? I can see it but my oponets can not? I wonder if there is a fix for this?
The "new comments" link on my home page sends me to wrong places.
A comment was made that 1 day was too soon to cancel as owners listen to feedback. I've been here long enough to know is utter BS
what's BS - that we don't listen? come on!! :) i've read more than 2,000 forum comment threads and sent hundreds of personal messages in the last 2 days alone discussing with members how to improve the site. find me another website owner of a site with 5 million members who does that :)
Most of those messages were probably something to the effect of "shut up, it ain't going to happen."
Just because you comment on here doesn't mean you've read everything.
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