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Player stalling in hopelessly lost game -- chess.com will do nothing about it

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cjsab

Sorry for not posting any more followups in this thread the last several days, folks, but I just got tired of repeating myself.  :-)

Yes, happily, my opponent finally lost on time.  Kind of strange, actually, he had gone on vacation for about the third time, and then I suddenly received notice that I had won the game.  Guess either his vacation time ran out on him, or chess.com stepped in and took action against him.

So, all's well that ends well.  Thanks for all the interesting comments, even the ones that were critical of me.  :-)

BenMullen1

I largely disagree with all the comments claiming that "stalling" is somehow bad, or that chess.com does not do enough to stop it.  Chess.com did the best thing ever to stop it, put in time controls.  If its 3 days per move and your opponent moves once every 3 days then you really have nothing to complain about, on the contrary, you should be happy you are winning.

Additionally, since time controls already exist for online chess, what is even meant here by "stalling".  So long as players move within that time frame they are playing within the rules and not "stalling" at all.  So I'm a bit confused as to the mechanics behind stalling at all.  It seems impossible where time controls are already built into the rules.

BenMullen1

the use, or misuse of vacation is considered stalling a game, why? why not just play more chess games against other players.  People are only granted a certain amount of vacation after all, just start new chess games, we'll all be here 2.5 months from now, but that player will be out of vacation.

OldHastonian
BenMullen1 wrote:

I largely disagree with all the comments claiming that "stalling" is somehow bad, or that chess.com does not do enough to stop it.  Chess.com did the best thing ever to stop it, put in time controls.  If its 3 days per move and your opponent moves once every 3 days then you really have nothing to complain about, on the contrary, you should be happy you are winning.

Additionally, since time controls already exist for online chess, what is even meant here by "stalling".  So long as players move within that time frame they are playing within the rules and not "stalling" at all.  So I'm a bit confused as to the mechanics behind stalling at all.  It seems impossible where time controls are already built into the rules.

To save you the bother of reading the Thread you are posting in, this is the issue in this matter:-

From the site rules...

"Vacation abuse occurs when players use vacation time simply to prolong games that are completely and hopelessly lost."

cjsab
Grousey wrote:
To save you the bother of reading the Thread you are posting in, this is the issue in this matter:-

From the site rules...

"Vacation abuse occurs when players use vacation time simply to prolong games that are completely and hopelessly lost."

Yep, that is precisely what my opponent was doing.

Regardless of all the "fine points" that have been bandied about through the course of this discussion, in the final analysis, such a despicable tactic can only reveal itself for what it truly is: a grossly unethical violation of both the spirit and the letter of the law with regards to "fair play", a pathetically childish and completely unrealistic attempt to avoid inevitable defeat, running completely counter to common convention and standards of sportsmanlike conduct in chess-playing circles.

I cannot begin to imagine how anyone resorting to such a practice could possibly derive anything in the way of some sort of positive reward from doing so, unless they are of such low character and so lacking in the ability to be honest with themselves that, like some smirking little juvenile nimrod thinking he's cleverly gotten away with some act of petty mischief, they somehow manage to delude themselves into thinking they've actually accomplished something worthwhile in the process.  How they're able to reconcile such a misguided notion against the actual outcome is a mystery even they themselves most likely would be hard pressed to explain.

While my first instinctive reaction is to despise such individuals, they're really more to be pitied than anything.  How sad for them, if this disingenuous approach of theirs spills over into other aspects of their lives (as, in all likelihood, it does).  They're doomed to lots of disappointment and rude awakenings, I would dare say.

Conrad, now stepping down from his philosophers' stump :-)

spartakbarnsley

Someone is doing this to me right now. He's online all the time playing blitz, but makes a move every three days in a game which is completely lost for him, often about 40 minutes before the time runs out. Thee are actually quite a few comments on his profile warning about his behaviour when losing, but obviously I only came across these after I'd started the game. Unfortunately I'm in a position where I need to bring my king into the game to force the win, so it could take another 15-20 moves, which at the current rate could be up to eight weeks. It's both infuriating and utterly pointless.

Pawnpusher3

As previously mentioned by me, you all can still set up conditional moves. It is annoying, but at least you can move on and start a new game. 

spartakbarnsley

As I'm busy relearning the game after a 30 year break, I am trying to refrain from blitz. Fun as it is, I think it fosters quite bad habits for people at my level. It's the chess equivalent of a certain Colombian "delicacy", and therefore best avoided! The short time control is definitely a sure fire way of avoiding people stalling ridiculously though. 

How do I set up conditional moves?