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arunrajeie

Just imagine we are seeing the movie that was already seen 10 times or more,

we have no need to worry about the unexpected sad (or) good ending of the story(CLIMAX)...

this is completely applicable in chess.......

if we rewind the chess game reel from the back, we have no need to worry about the ending...........

i recommend people to analyse their own games from backwards.........

this is extremely helpful in reducing time trouble & also reduce calculating time in future games.....

fissionfowl

That makes absolutely no sense to me.

-waller-

Since, during the game, a key part of your decision on which move to make was based on your assessment of the likelihood of the final result after such a move, I completely disagree.

orangehonda

Makes sense, of course.  I don't know why westy1 and waller try to disagree.

arunrajeie

thanks orangehonda.....

what i exactly mean is that we can create our desired endgame, by playing for that.....

we can actually force our opponent to our comfortable plans.........

this thought occurred to me, while i was listening to the video lecture of chess..

but the author indirectly hinted, learning backwards would help......

but he didn't mean directly..............

just imagine, no one would tell you secret directly...............we have to get from their hints.......

i want you people to keep this discussion going.........

Dragec

Computers do the analysis backwards, so one might learn something from them as well Cool

arunrajeie
Dragec wrote:

Computers do the analysis backwards, so one might learn something from them as well


this is another good news......i have seen computer calculating the different possibilities using the endgame tablebases..........

so we can prefer which piece to exchange and act accordingly.........

if we are strong with knights & pawn, we can choose to exchange rooks, bishops etc.,

Sagnikjyoti

What do you mean by the word "Backward"??

arunrajeie

what i exactly mean is we have to learn from endgame - middle game - openings.....

along with tactics & positional play....

but not the usual way of openings - middle game - end game....

i also recommend people to correct their mistakes, from which position they are making wrong moves.....rolling back their chess pgn reel.....

we normally look pgn files in forward mode...i suggest reverse mode....

end to the beginning actually......this will pinpoint our mistakes...spot on...

-waller-

Right, sure endgames are more important than openings. You'll find no-one who agrees more on that than I.

But I still don't really get why analysing a game backwards would help you spot your mistakes more easily than forwards.

The bit about creating your desired endgame - I would think you would need to calculate ahead to see what the position could look like if you make a particular move.

And the bit in the OP about "not worrying about the ending of the story" still makes no sense to me, because surely the object of chess is to obtain a satisfactory ending, and so THAT's exactly what to worry about.

ggy64x

one grandmaster said that we need to see our goal( in terms of positioning and etc,), then make it happen. Its like thinking of a possible mate, and then think backwards towards your present position/situation. I dont think the author was trying to make people learn how to mate then only learn how to move the pieces, but rather try to rewind.

arunrajeie

mating is not a problem, if we get a winning position.....

we can play for your desired position & then think about mating etc..,

-waller-
ggy64x wrote:

one grandmaster said that we need to see our goal( in terms of positioning and etc,), then make it happen. Its like thinking of a possible mate, and then think backwards towards your present position/situation. I dont think the author was trying to make people learn how to mate then only learn how to move the pieces, but rather try to rewind.


 This makes a bit more sense to me, and I can now see where the OP is coming from. Thanks!

arunrajeie

yeah i accept the opinion that rewinding doesn't do good...

Behroozfar

A good idea ( i see this idea in an article somewhere in this site too ) . but we should examine this and see its effects in our games . then we can accept or reject it .

arunrajeie

i lost one of my winnable game....due to discontinuity of attack....

when i reviewed it forward..i didn't find out what exactly is my mistake....

but later reviewed backward & find out "i should have placed my queen on check, instead of controlling a long diagonal"

please have a try folks...

ivandh

!1831 ot depmuj sah gnitar yM !woW

trysts
ivandh wrote:

!1831 ot depmuj sah gnitar yM !woW


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arunrajeie

hi, what does that mean...please speak in english folks

trysts
arunrajeie wrote:

hi, what does that mean...please speak in english folks


It's just english backwards, arunrajeieSmile