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Can intelligent person suck at chess, forever?


  • 23 months ago · Quote · #321

    bronsteinitz

    A duesexchessina with a dominant left hand and a powerful mind and a unique style. My god, i just fainted....

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #322

    dchurchill

    If you're not understanding subtle rook moves you probably need to study positional play and the core concepts of the openings you play.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #323

    Here_Is_Plenty

    dchurchill wrote:

    If you're not understanding subtle rook moves you probably need to study positional play and the core concepts of the openings you play.

    Subtle, mister?  It goes up and down, it goes side to side.  It occasionally castles, yes, but that trickery can be anticipated too.  Nothing too subtle like trying to work out how a knight gets to an adjacent square without getting itself killed.  Seriously though, I know what you mean - rook can have waiting moves, bridge ranks and the Lucena etc stuff that you study once and then maybe have to use 20 years later.  Openings though are seldom about rooks - you know those big lumps of plastic stuck in the corner till the other pieces do the decent thing and leave the field?  Positional play is more geared to pawn structures.  By all means look at some rook endings but pawns are way more instructive.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #324

    dchurchill

    OP said "Opponent Rook moves two squares on back rank for reasons I CANNOT IMAGINE?!?"  I imagine his opponent has a plan for said rook that is common for his chosen opening.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #325

    GhostNight

    yereslov, if the average player at your chess club is 1500+, thats a great club. I always felt when you reach 1500 OTB USCF rating "your In"! Once you reach that level you can stay there and enjoy chess for all its worth, or move up if this is your goal?

    Since Rooks were brought up, Once you learn best placement of your rooks, in the early and middle game is a sign of a advanced chess player!! To me the rooks are most important, because your home is your castle! lolo just kidding 

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #326

    WalangAlam

    One thing about learning is first you have to enjoy it! Losing a lot takes out the fun and discouragement sets in. If you lose make sure your next opponent is rated lesser than you to give you a better chance in winning again. Second thing learn it the right way, Endgame first, tactics and lastly openings. Read a lot of books too. Nowadays people are getting lazy to read, knowledge doesn't sink in the first time you read it, it will come eventually after playing a lot or after discovering it in a game, there is no instant knowledge. The ideas and reasons behind each move in a game are detailed in books, whereupon after reading you apply it immediately in a game. As you would have known by now chess takes time to learn, how much more to master it. Best of luck!

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #327

    Here_Is_Plenty

    dchurchill wrote:

    OP said "Opponent Rook moves two squares on back rank for reasons I CANNOT IMAGINE?!?"  I imagine his opponent has a plan for said rook that is common for his chosen opening.


    Ahh.  That was so long ago I forgot what first post was.  (Stand by my point about rooks being irrelevant to most openings, at least insofar as the general middlegame positions where games leave theory for most players.)  Often the problem when threads reach 300 - I did read that section but it was some time ago.  OP showed basic misconceptions about how vast and intricate chess is - like most people coming from outside he was unaware of how little we know till we realise "Wait, I still know nothing"....this continues on for another few years, then we turn round and go "Wow I still suck at this game, I really do know nothing."  On the other hand the title should perhaps have been "Can AN intelligent person..."

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #328

    IntelCorei7

    No.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #329

    Yereslov

    GhostNight wrote:

    yereslov, if the average player at your chess club is 1500+, thats a great club. I always felt when you reach 1500 OTB USCF rating "your In"! Once you reach that level you can stay there and enjoy chess for all its worth, or move up if this is your goal?

    Since Rooks were brought up, Once you learn best placement of your rooks, in the early and middle game is a sign of a advanced chess player!! To me the rooks are most important, because your home is your castle! lolo just kidding 

    The issue is that once you reach 1500+ your rating is going to remain there for a LONG time. None of the players have improved beyond one hundred points, and when their rating jumps it eventually sinks back again.

    We have two 1900+ rated players and two more 2000+ rated players, but none of them makes progress once they reach the 2100+ rating point.

    By the way, the organizer of the club is the president of the MACA.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #330

    Yereslov

    This is the rating list.We're a small club, but we get random visits from strong players.

    http://www.wachusettchess.org/ClubMemberRatings.htm

    Percy Yip is the strongest eight year old in the United States.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #331

    AlCzervik

    And you are one of the weakest blowhards here.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #332

    DrSpudnik

    Three digit rating and he goes on about how bad Tal's sacrifices were!!! LOLZ!

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #333

    AlCzervik

    That's just one reason why I don't respond to comments regarding great players' play.  

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #334

    goldendog

    This is the end, my beautiful friend. The end.


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