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Arctor

Oct 3, 2011

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#21

Pawnpusher3 wrote:

NEVER PUSH A PAWN IN DOUBT... you cant undo a pawn move.

And what makes you think you can undo a piece move? A bad move is a bad move... it doesn't matter if it's a piece or a pawn

sapientdust

Oct 3, 2011

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#22

Arctor wrote:

Pawnpusher3 wrote:

NEVER PUSH A PAWN IN DOUBT... you cant undo a pawn move.

And what makes you think you can undo a piece move? A bad move is a bad move... it doesn't matter if it's a piece or a pawn

There are often plenty of piece moves that can buy you time and don't actively harm you, and you can always move the piece to a better square later (assuming you haven't blundered it away), or move it back to where it was if you want. Every pawn move is forever, because pawns can't move backwards. After you've fatally weakened your kingside by kicking pieces away or making idle pawn moves , there is nothing you can do to undo the damage you've done.

justrookin

Oct 3, 2011

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#23

I love all this great advice, thanks everyone! Before getting a coach, I'm gonna go back to the basics and study openings. And ZaidejasChEgis is right, I am only comfortable with one or two openings, I need to get comfortable with a few more and on each side. I think I'm gonna pick you and study your games! :-) honestly, great advice

vowles_23

Oct 4, 2011

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#24

Arctor wrote:

vowles_23 wrote:

When in doubt, MOVE A PIECE! Pushing a pawn can not be undone, where moving a piece can.

I think you mean, when in doubt push your h-pawn

Yeah, make sure you push it two spaces as well.

justrookin

Oct 4, 2011

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#25

Thanks Estragon.. I have just gotten into using the analyze buttons here and reviewing my games. Even mid game, to stop and analyze possible moves is so incredibly helpful. I am still discovering all the learning tools here, I am fairly new to this site. I formerly played at chesscube.com and I just found this place, I have not been back there since. I find the players here are even better, an 1800 rating there is like 1500 here. The $100 bucks for all the resources here is an incredible package as well, the tools are amazing, I am still discovering them.

I am playing better on turn based games vs. fast live games for the obvious reason I get more time to think. When I first saw that option I said to myself... why the hell would I want to play a game that could take days or weeks to finish. Then I quickly discovered how wonderful this option actually is.

Thanks all!

dadam

Oct 4, 2011

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#26

justrookin wrote:

Forgive me Mr. Ivan... I promise I mean no disrespect, but my goal is to get to GM ratings. I appreciate your comment, but I think your comment lacks the idea my goal is to obtain a rating of 2000 or better, thus I would need to understand those GM moves.

Although I have known how to play chess for a long time, I would say that maybe 2 years ago that chess "clicked" in my head and it started becoming more of a "knack." I finally understood chess. I just got it, "if he does this, I do that" kind of thing. I am trying to find that next "click" to that next level of understanding this game.

In my game experiences, I have been focused enough on a few occasions to play some brilliant, GM Level, games. My desire is to be at this level religiously, not be a freak occurrence. I feel like I am so close to the next understanding of Chess.

I have trouble referring to Chess as a "game," it's a war.

You need a girlfriend and having sex.

Then you will feel that chess is only a game. Not more.

Regards

justrookin

Oct 4, 2011

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#27

I have a GF and lots of sex! If I could, I would tattoo a chess board on her back and I can kill 2 birds with one stone! : )

Arctor

Oct 4, 2011

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#28

justrookin wrote:

I have a GF and lots of sex! If I could, I would tattoo a chess board on her back and I can kill 2 birds with one stone! : )

or one bird with two stones

justrookin

Oct 4, 2011

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#29

Haha, Nice!

yusuf_prasojo

Oct 4, 2011

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#30

justrookin wrote I would tattoo a chess board on her back

Why on the back? You would miss the opportunity to have two extra pawns.

bigpoison

Oct 4, 2011

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#31

ivandh wrote:

justrookin wrote:

...

I have trouble referring to Chess as a "game," it's a war.

Ok then...

"Dig a hole in your back yard while it is raining. Sit in the hole until the water climbs up around your ankles. Pour cold mud down your shirt collar. Sit there for 48 hours, and, so there is no danger of your dozing off, imagine that a guy is sneaking around waiting for a chance to club you on the head or set your house on fire.

"Get out of the hole, fill a suitcase full of rocks, pick it up, put a shotgun in your other hand, and walk on the muddiest road you can find. Fall flat on your face every few minutes as you imagine big meteors streaking down to sock you.

"After 10 or 12 miles (remember -- you are still carrying the shotgun and suitcase) start sneaking through the wet brush. Imagine that somebody has booby-trapped your route with rattlesnakes which will bite you if you step on them. Give some friend a rifle and have him blast in your direction once in a while. Try to sneak up on a bull without him seeing you. When he does see you, run like hell all the way back to your hole in the back yard, drop the suitcase and shotgun, and get in.

"If you repeat this performance every three days for several months you may begin to understand why an infantryman sometimes gets out of breath. But you still won't understand how he feels when things get tough."

- Bill Mauldin, Up Front, 1944

Great post! I was going to respond to the absurd "chess is war" post, but I can't say it better than Mr. Mauldin, either.

sshenker

Oct 4, 2011

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#32

vowles_23 wrote:

When in doubt, MOVE A PIECE! Pushing a pawn can not be undone, where moving a piece can.

It is quite rejuvinating to see someone else with such an interest in chess! I am not especially good. Despite that, I always play my friends before Spanish 1, during lunch period, whether or not chess club meets that particular day. However, about the push a pawn theory, Mr. Kurzdorfer, author of Tao of Chess strongly advises against it, for the reason vowles_23 said. Just wanted to cite a master as reason not to push the pawn unless you are absolutely sure.

Arctor

Oct 4, 2011

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#33

sshenker wrote:

vowles_23 wrote:

When in doubt, MOVE A PIECE! Pushing a pawn can not be undone, where moving a piece can.

It is quite rejuvinating to see someone else with such an interest in chess! I am not especially good. Despite that, I always play my friends before Spanish 1, during lunch period, whether or not chess club meets that particular day. However, about the push a pawn theory, Mr. Kurzdorfer, author of Tao of Chess strongly advises against it, for the reason vowles_23 said. Just wanted to cite a master as reason not to push the pawn unless you are absolutely sure.

Bent Larsen was infamous for mysterious rook pawn thrusts and it was he I was paraphrasing above when I said "When in doubt, push your h-pawn". With no disrespect to Mr.Kurzdorfer, I'd sooner side with Mr.Larsen.

The fact is, no move should be made without a thorough understanding of the consequences. And that goes for piece moves just as much as pawn moves...

dadam

Oct 4, 2011

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#34

justrookin wrote:

I have a GF and lots of sex! If I could, I would tattoo a chess board on her back and I can kill 2 birds with one stone! : )

You need two girlfriends. Then you have so much trouble - no thinking about chess longer possible.

NM TheOldReb

Oct 5, 2011

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#35

dadam wrote:

justrookin wrote:

I have a GF and lots of sex! If I could, I would tattoo a chess board on her back and I can kill 2 birds with one stone! : )

You need two girlfriends. Then you have so much trouble - no thinking about chess longer possible.

A man needs two girlfriends about like Gen Custer needed more Indians .

Arctor

Oct 5, 2011

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#36

Coincidentally, I was just watching this Short vs Kasparov TV game on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hccnHPnq1Pg

About 7 minutes in, the game reaches the following position and Nigel remarks "Well I'm not quite sure how I should proceed. So, when in doubt, push a pawn" and promptly plays h4

bomtrown

Oct 5, 2011

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#37

Arctor wrote:

Coincidentally, I was just watching this Short vs Kasparov TV game on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hccnHPnq1Pg

About 7 minutes in, the game reaches the following position and Nigel remarks "Well I'm not quite sure how I should proceed. So, when in doubt, push a pawn" and promptly plays h4

Short won.

justrookin

Oct 5, 2011

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#38

As for the girl friend bit, I am not so sure why dadam wants me to now get two girlfriends to not think about chess. This is a chess forum, I do have chess on my brain, a lot and I like it. I will think girls in my bedroom.

There is a lot of interesting ideas in this thread... thanks guys!!

sshenker

Oct 5, 2011

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#39

Arctor wrote:

sshenker wrote:

vowles_23 wrote:

When in doubt, MOVE A PIECE! Pushing a pawn can not be undone, where moving a piece can.

It is quite rejuvinating to see someone else with such an interest in chess! I am not especially good. Despite that, I always play my friends before Spanish 1, during lunch period, whether or not chess club meets that particular day. However, about the push a pawn theory, Mr. Kurzdorfer, author of Tao of Chess strongly advises against it, for the reason vowles_23 said. Just wanted to cite a master as reason not to push the pawn unless you are absolutely sure.

Bent Larsen was infamous for mysterious rook pawn thrusts and it was he I was paraphrasing above when I said "When in doubt, push your h-pawn". With no disrespect to Mr.Kurzdorfer, I'd sooner side with Mr.Larsen.

The fact is, no move should be made without a thorough understanding of the consequences. And that goes for piece moves just as much as pawn moves...

Thank you for quoting me. First time!

I would agree with you; a grandmaster has far more merit than a master. However, I don't like following blindly. The phrase that gets my goat is the "When in doubt..." If we doubt something, the last thing we should do is "cross the Rubicon", so to speak.

Please alert me if there are any fallacies in my reasoning.

Thanks.

justrookin

Oct 5, 2011

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#40

I think the "doubt" in this quote more or less means that your major pieces are in a great position, as well as perhaps your opponents pieces. Push a pawn, means to not forget about the minor pieces, one little "push" of a pawn can change the game entirely!!

Come on group! People take this quote way too literally. Analyze the quote like you should your chess game. It actually makes sense. If you think the quote means, you have no clue what to do and you should just randomly push a pawn without logic, you are an idiot.

Honestly, this thread should be locked. Many people contributed terrific ideas to my overall frustration with the game, there is nothing more to say. The topic has gone astray!! If you observe the comments from chess members that are above 1600, the comments are much wiser and much more helpful to my original topic, not that some of the other suggestion were not creative, but getting a girlfriend and getting laid by my girlfriend is not particularly useful advice to improving my chess game!

However, tattooing a chessboard on her back is an excellent thought! ; )