Perhaps I should re-submit my bid. As time goes on with no interest from anyone else, my offer becomes more attractive.
Suzie doesn't have a prom date yet kinda thing.
Although I'm still not on the "approved bidders" list.
Is it a disaster if Anand wins the candidates tournament?
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Something tells me if that should continue to happen with sponsorship, then Norway would likely find some way to get not only a match for their champion but, but host it also. However, I could be wrong. Perhaps that might become part of a new standard or prerequisite, if matches are always difficult to get sponsors and venues for, going forward ?
The champion's nation can host the match and bear the responsibility of finances ? However that could become a problem if a WCC arose from an extremely poor country, which isn't very likely...
Asking the government to host the World Chess Championship, is that what you are asking?
I am not opposed to the idea myself, but it does seem a bit old school. Such might upset a lot of people. Selfish anarcho-capitalists seem to have the upper hand.
johnmusacha wrote:
Asking the government to host the World Chess Championship, is that what you are asking?
I am not opposed to the idea myself, but it does seem a bit old school. Such might upset a lot of people. Selfish anarcho-capitalists seem to have the upper hand.
I am not necessarily meaning the governments be "required" to be involved but, perhaps. My best guess is that ordinarily, any player is going to get more support and have someone be willing to invest in him/her if they play in their own nation, where their fans are more likely to pay for admission and show support for the person.
Perhaps it would better to place the burden of finance upon the challenger but, that would seen to necessitate no home field advantage ever for the champion, which would require neutral venues only, which tends to put us back to square one ?
I'm not opposed to government funding of chess champions and chess in general. These recent problems with sponsorship and hosting the WCC shows that chess is a sport that cannot survive in the free market.
Chess arose to the prominence it achieved in the twentieth century directly due to Communistic government support. You see how quickly the financial support crumbled once chess became more free market dependent.
The problem is the world political climate is so anti-socialist now that government funding for a chess match would be quite controversial.
nameno1had wrote:
Something tells me if that should continue to happen with sponsorship, then Norway would likely find some way to get not only a match for their champion but, but host it also. However, I could be wrong. Perhaps that might become part of a new standard or prerequisite, if matches are always difficult to get sponsors and venues for, going forward ?
The champion's nation can host the match and bear the responsibility of finances ? However that could become a problem if a WCC arose from an extremely poor country, which isn't very likely...
Well the Norwegian chess organisation is to broke to arrange it. They have promised to do so if someone where to get the money from somewhere so we can just hope some rich Norwegian steps up
mrhjornevik wrote:
nameno1had wrote:
Something tells me if that should continue to happen with sponsorship, then Norway would likely find some way to get not only a match for their champion but, but host it also. However, I could be wrong. Perhaps that might become part of a new standard or prerequisite, if matches are always difficult to get sponsors and venues for, going forward ?
The champion's nation can host the match and bear the responsibility of finances ? However that could become a problem if a WCC arose from an extremely poor country, which isn't very likely...
Well the Norwegian chess organisation is to broke to arrange it. They have promised to do so if someone where to get the money from somewhere so we can just hope some rich Norwegian steps up
This is exactly what I anticipate if this drags on but, I tend to think Magnus' marketability supercedes the situation. One can only guess at how these thinks can fall into place...
Nah, I think he's talking about the Norwegian government directly allocating the funding for the WCC.
It's a good idea in theory. That'll show those soul-less anarcho-capitalist swine that man still cares about arts & culture!
johnmusacha wrote:
Nah, I think he's talking about the Norwegian government directly allocating the funding for the WCC.
It's a good idea in theory. That'll show those soul-less anarcho-capitalist swine that man still cares about arts & culture!
In general I don't care where it comes from, I just want to see Carlsen have the chance to play the best available competition. He is a chessic genius and I'd hate to see him be cursed by his own greatness, or the lack of relevant competition...
I know you did not say that Mr. Musacha, I was responding to the comment by silentknighte5. Thank you for the compliment.
The Norwegian superstar in cross country -skiing , Petter Northug ,drunkdrove and crashed. His name was severly hurt, and his friend broke the collarbone.
Rumour says that he might loose two big sponsors, one of them is Coop.
I think chess-VM is a better sponsorproduct for them.
Well India hosted it the last time so it's more to do with issues affecting FIDE than Anand being the worthy challenger..
3kush3 wrote:
Well India hosted it the last time so it's more to do with issues affecting FIDE than Anand being the worthy challenger..
lol
Anand has played in 7 World championship matches/tourneys, and all of them were bid upon and passed without much hindrance. Now, it's supposedly Carlsen's turn to bring the market into chess with his youth and energy, yet the chess world blames Anand for the lack of bids. I think, people would still blame Anand even if he wasn't playing.
And here come all of the Anand defenders out of the woodwork.
Franknstein, the Gelfand-Anand match had many problems getting organized.
SilentKnighte5 wrote:
And here come all of the Anand defenders out of the woodwork.
Awww....now you've gone ahead and chummed the waters.
ANGRY CAPS/GRAMMAR/SPELLING BE DAMNED straw man arguments in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ....
NOOOOOOOOOOO!
SmyslovFan wrote:
Franknstein, the Gelfand-Anand match had many problems getting organized.
If I remember correctly, that match got multiple bids, with chennai being outdone by moscow( one of the reasons why chennai got it in 2013). Besides, my point is the Carlsen fanboys were blowing the trumpet exclaiming about how great Carlsen is for chess popularity, and there would be money flowing into chess now. If Carlsen is so marketable, why isn't there any bids? Why is Anand held responsible and not Carlsen?
It's not a disaster yet. FIDE had trouble finding sponsors for the Gelfand-Anand match. If this drags on without a sponsor, then it will become a disaster.
This isn't Brasil hosting the World Cup/Olympics. Once a sponsor is found, the match can be played. They may have to play for less than originally promised though.