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uri65 wrote:

There is no way to do it in OTB game of course.  What I did couple of times in correspondence chess - in completely won position while taking yet another of his pieces I would send him a comment: "Chess is fun, isn't it?". To my surprise it worked!

I don't know how it worked for you but from all the many cc games I've played(and still play whatever the site)I am now very careful with the chat...unless you play with a friend.I like to chat,even with my approximate english but I've found that,generally,from my point of view,many players take the game way too seriously(hey most of us are here for(serious)fun.
I've had few bad experiences but now I play my games,and that's it that's all.If they want to chat ok no problem but I won't make the first move anymore.
Humour and chess is a (very) bad mix.
Silence is golden?

yusuf_prasojo

I think people are misguided by wrong perception that players are "rude" to continue playing a very bad position and that it is quite "respectful" to resign (no matter what the position is).

The truth is, you're probably not a professional player, and you cannot be a strong player with that kind of mentality. Every players are mentally under pressure when they have to defend a difficult position (or even equal but sharp position). The disability to cope with this pressure is always part of the reason to resign.

Yes, you can resign if you don't want to waste energy that you will need for the next game, not because giving up the pressure, or want to look polite.

Look at team matches OTB. They fight harder because they feel responsible for the other team members. Even if it is not team match, you still have responsibility for yourself, your family, for time and money that you spend to join the tournament. Isn't a responsible person respectful?

Recently (my last completed game) I played a King's Gambit. It is difficult to play this opening as it requires strong calculation skill. While playing this opening, most of the time I found a combination chance. The chance sometimes will slip away if not taken right away. I always ask to myself, if I don't do it know, will I be able to add more pressure or will he improve his position? If I see that he can improve his position, then I will take the risk. If my calculation and intuition is superior then I'll win, if not then I'll loose.

In this game I calculated the details of the combination, but still uncertain if I will succeed. But at minimum I can see that at the end of my vision I still hold the initiative, or it is still unclear. The check against my King at the first and second rank is the one that I can't see clearly enough. But to my surprise, my opponent resigned. If he were using engine to analyze the position, may be he would think "Oh, my position is -2.04, may be I need to resign." But if he's not (which I believe so), is it because he can see the end of the combination better than I do? If he thinks he is certainly loosing, why not let me prove it? I did the combination not because I'm certain with my calculation but because that is how to play the KG (otherwise why should I play a "refuted" opening?).

Here is the game (combination is on move #13):

birdbirdbird

make a lot of sarcastic remarks like, "what a close game!!!" and "well, you've really got me in a corner here!!!"

the more exclamation points the better. also, refuse to mate them and promote every pawn into a worthless piece.

or, just play normally and mate a quickly as possible. either response is acceptable.

Loufoque

I think he should not say to his opponent: "Resign!". But perhaps explain the position, and that it may give a precise result, without ever really saying that the person loses, but on your side, you're in good position. I say nothing ... But if I lose then I resign

sftac
birdbirdbird wrote:

make a lot of sarcastic remarks like, "what a close game!!!" and "well, you've really got me in a corner here!!!"

the more exclamation points the better.


 Ooh, I like the way you think (and you're rich enough to pay for a Premium membership here, too).  You'll make some girl very happy.

sftac

sftac
RoseQueen1985 wrote:

... When the game first starts, sometimes they reply to you several times a day. But when they have a bare king against your queen,well,now the moves comes 1 in every 3 days,dragging the game on for weeks,

 I was reading a recently reposted survey of just why chess.com members like this site and what they like and value about it.  And, it's mostly the socialization opportunities (game chat, chat rooms & forum posting), and not the assorted features.

So, I think opponents prolong hopeless situations (slow down their moves, and, play to the bitter end) because they want to continue to interact and socialize (even if the extent is in the form of exchanging moves over a chess board).

They're simply not looking forward to their opponent leaving the social setting of the game in which they're both pleasantly involved.

sftac

chessdude46

How about this, you have to leave for something and it is really important, and you are in an obviously superior position (like up a queen and a couple pawns). Is it polite to ask your opponent to resign then?

chessdude46

I guess that works.

frrixz

Everybody has the right to be a masochist. If your opponent doesn't resign the lost position, continue with the # - plan.

JG27Pyth

Are we due another "It is/is not rude to ask for resignation" thread? My goodness... where does the time go? 

AnatolyKramnik

In the interest of complaining, I find it more frustrating when someone in a clearly lost position makes a draw offer on chess.com. Just swallow your pride and hit the resign button, it's only a couple of centimetres to the right. 

Arctor

When playing OTB, you sit down knowing the game could take the full three hours or whatever depending on the time control...so who cares if someone "wastes" a few minutes of your time. Look at it this way...you won!

When playing live chess...who cares?! The game is going to be over in a matter of minutes (or seconds for you bullet tards) and guess what.....you won!

When playing correspondence it's just plain ignorant. Really buddy...do you really think your lone king and pawn is going to save the game against my rook + piece? But who cares?! If you're in a hurry to get the game finished why are you playing correspondence? And hey...you won!!

Azukikuru

Actually, I miss playing against under-1800s who play on until the end. I miss finding the checkmate. People above that level resign too quickly. I like playing a won game without any pressure, and once my opponents realize that I'm winning, they simply don't give me that chance. Now THAT'S rude...

Why would you think that not resigning is rude? Are you not confident enough in your own chess skills that you are certain to win a won game? Because if you aren't, your opponent should keep playing a lost position. Being an ass and wasting someone's time OTB is one thing, but in CC games, nobody's in a hurry.

Skwerly

very well said.  :)

DonnieDarko1980

I don't feel offended easily, but I feel offended if my opponent suggests that I should resign. After all, at 1300 standard, I'm not a strong player, but I certainly should know enough of chess to decide for myself if I see any purpose in playing on. My reaction to this is disabling chat and playing on until mate.

ACWolfpack

I JUST FINISHED A GAME A WEEK AGO WHERE I THOUGHT ITS TIME INDEED FOR ME TO RESIGN.JUST THEN MY OPPONANT MADE A BLUNDER THAT LED TO MY WINNING THE GAME.

UNLESS YOUR IN A MATE IN ONE OR TWO MOVE SITUATION,I THINK ONE SHOULD CONTINUE. A LOSS IN MATERIAL IS NOT SUFFICIENT REASON TO RESIGN IN MY OPINION. EXCERSIZE YOUR BRAIN MATTER TO HOPEFULLY PULL OFF A WIN.

Crazychessplaya

How about a quiet, yet convincing yawn?

hankm

There is a very fine line here. It really depends on how simple the position is. For instance, if my opponent was, say, a rook down in the middle game, I would hardly expect him/her to resign. But if my opponent was a rook down, and it was a king and rook vs. king situation (an extremely simple endgame that virtually every tournament player knows) I would be rather irritated if he/she didn't resign. Even so, though, I think there is never a time where it is polite to suggest that your opponent should resign. If your opponent wants to waste his/her time playing a totally lost position, you really shouldn't give a darn.

Teary_Oberon

When your opponent refuses to resign and is bugging you, just do what Teary does:

 

Loufoque

In the case of the game: Ish vs Tears Var Lan 1-0 I understand, the person is a stubborn ...