Whites first move advantage

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17th August 2008, 08:46am
#1
by TheMoonwalker
Near Oslo, Norway
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 866

Has white got an advantage by playing the first move?

Most people prefer to play white and I think white wins most of the times, but it might also depend on the style of every player?

I really don't know...

 

Moon...Cool

17th August 2008, 09:01am
#2
by rush40
USA United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
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with good play yes white has an advantage

17th August 2008, 09:12am
#3
by transpositions
United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 170

Every move in chess has advantages and disadvantages, including the first move by White.   The key is for Black to find the move(s) that exploits the disadvantages of White's first move and equalizes.  Sometimes that doesn't happen right away, but rather after a series of well known moves. This series of moves also known as variations are what is known as opening theory.  It is a very tricky business requiring alot of study and practice.

17th August 2008, 09:26am
#4
by redearth329
United States
Member Since: May 2008
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Statistically, white wins more often. However, proper play on both sides should always result in a draw. So I think that it is really the better player that has the advantage.

17th August 2008, 09:56am
#5
by TheMoonwalker
Near Oslo, Norway
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 866

redearth329 wrote:

 However, proper play on both sides should always result in a draw.


Are you sure about that?

17th August 2008, 10:25am
#6
by TheMoonwalker
Near Oslo, Norway
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 866

TiagoDevesa wrote:

I personally prefer black... when playing white I feel too much pressure to come up with attacks

With black I just respond


I think it will help to play very much with white, then you will get more confidence and get a lot better with the white pieces too.

Strangly enough, I change all the time. Normally, I start playing better with one colour, and then after a month I begin winning only with the other (lol).

17th August 2008, 10:42am
#7
by redearth329
United States
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TheMoonwalker wrote:

redearth329 wrote:

 However, proper play on both sides should always result in a draw.


Are you sure about that?


 Quite. It's one of Wilhelm Steinitz' famous 'laws' of chess.

17th August 2008, 10:52am
#8
by kosmeg
Lamia Greece
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 527

White has to go for the advantage and black has to go for equality, but if you're better you're going to win, no matter what.

17th August 2008, 12:28pm
#9
by gumpty
congleton England
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 7113
its not as much an advantage as say ,the serve in tennis.....but its an advantage, if black mimics whites moves he will get mated first, so he must make more effort to equalize.
17th August 2008, 06:46pm
#10
by El_Amo
Portland, Oregon United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 73

Surprisingly there's a wikipedia article dedicated to this. Basically it says that opinions are varied on whether or not white has an advantage. It also mentions the other idea that a well played game should always end in a draw. And statistically, white wins between 52.55% and 55.4% of the time (depending on the library of games examined). And based on these statistics, whites first move allows a 35 ELO rating advantage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-move_advantage_in_chess

21st August 2008, 10:11am
#11
by TheMoonwalker
Near Oslo, Norway
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 866

Ok, thanks for that one... an interesting site :)

21st August 2008, 10:16am
#12
by mq1982
Manchester England
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 258

White has the advantage of the first move, Black has the advantage of chosing the opening.

28th August 2008, 10:13am
#13
by TheMoonwalker
Near Oslo, Norway
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Member Points: 866

Can black choose the opening?

28th August 2008, 10:25am
#14
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
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Member Points: 4529

He means black 'chooses' the opening by the response he makes- they dont actually get to tell the white player what opening to do Laughing

28th August 2008, 10:43am
#15
by Elona
United Kingdom
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 110

I prefer to play black. With white, going first meens you can loose faster. If that makes sence...

28th August 2008, 10:45am
#16
by Mysterix
Enghien Les Bains France
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 145

While the game has not been solved (theoretically), we can't say anything :o/

28th August 2008, 11:02am
#17
by lachezar92
Bulgaria
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 4

The advantage of going first is not realy that great. In some competitions if white has not gained a big enough advantage over black, black would win so both colours have their advantages and they are pretty much equal. It does not matter which colour you are as the styles of play will differ and the skill will vary between two players.

28th August 2008, 11:36am
#18
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
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Member Points: 22755

If played accurately white should normally get a slight advantage.

28th August 2008, 12:50pm
#19
by wormstar
Helsinki Finland
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 65

think of it like this: you engage into a fist fight, and the other fighter gives you a free punch. is it an advantage or not?

and the same applies to every every tempo you lose, excluding zugzwang.

make every move count, never miss a beat.

28th August 2008, 01:07pm
#20
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 22755

Yes that would definitely give you a advantage.

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