New Logic for Auto-pairing and Seek Graph!

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DeepGreene

Hey, guys! Just a heads-up on some changes we recently made in Live Chess...

We have greatly improved how we match people looking for rated games in our default time controls. We now pair everyone automatically to the best-matched opponent based on rating, lag, and user behavior.

Because these match so quickly and would otherwise strain the Seek Graph with frequent updates, we no longer display these default seeks. Unrated and custom seeks are still shown.

That's how it works! Just press a button for a good match with little or no waiting - or check the graph for unrated games and/or custom time-controls!

cool64chess

Thanks for the great information! Smile

DrawMaster

Appreciate the info, Deep. Thanks. However, I have heard of people posting seeks and not getting responses ... just a Matching message ... perhaps they are posting unusual time controls ... I don't know.

mdadwal

Thanks, this is informing

DeepGreene
DrawMaster wrote:

Appreciate the info, Deep. Thanks. However, I have heard of people posting seeks and not getting responses ... just a Matching message ... perhaps they are posting unusual time controls ... I don't know.

Yes, that could easily be the case... Things that will definitely make people wait longer:

1. Unrated seeks (a little anyway)

2. Custom time-controls

3. Customized opponent-rating min/max ranges - especially those that don't include the seeker's current rating.

skakmadurinn

And "user bahivor" - So the rude guys on chess.com will not get a match?! That's so sad.

DeepGreene
skakmadurinn wrote:

And "user bahivor" - So the rude guys on chess.com will not get a match?! That's so sad.

Haha! Well... rudeness is harder to detect. But, for example, we are doing our best to keep people who disconnect frequently apart from people who don't. :)

Zigwurst

Finally! Thank you

ghostofmaroczy
Zigwurst wrote:

How do you like my little ferret?

PossibleOatmeal

Was hoping for actual auto-pairing pools.  Hope this isn't an "instead of."  Each time control needs its own rating and aborts need to be losses for the aborter for this to be useful.

ghostofmaroczy
pawpatrol wrote:

I like your ferret.  He can join the paw patrol.

mike_tal

Sounds good, thanks for making the site even better

mike_tal

ggs all

Irontiger
DeepGreene wrote:
DrawMaster wrote:

Appreciate the info, Deep. Thanks. However, I have heard of people posting seeks and not getting responses ... just a Matching message ... perhaps they are posting unusual time controls ... I don't know.

Yes, that could easily be the case... Things that will definitely make people wait longer:

(...)

2. Custom time-controls

 

EDIT: this post is worthless, as will be clear for anyone who read carefully the OP.

Just to make it clear...

So custom time controls are not shown in the graph?

 

I do not use them, but say that hypothetically I issued a game of 14|7 while someone else issues a 16|4. There is a good chance that if any of us saw the other we would have taken the challenge, but as it is we are going to remain stuck for a lot of time with slightly different time controls.

Wouldn't it be more efficient to display the custom time controls but not the regular ones? Since those are the bulk of requests, it would still be a huge improvement for refreshing purposes.

PossibleOatmeal

This is exactly what he said.  Custom seeks are shown, but the standardized ones are done behind the scenes now and not shown on the graph.

Irontiger
pawpatrol wrote:

This is exactly what he said.  Custom seeks are shown, but the standardized ones are done behind the scenes now and not shown on the graph.

Indeed. I read #1 a bit too fast.

TheMoonwalker

Whats the point of hiding seeks? It was never really a problem with a crowded seeks graph.. it is now more difficult to pick our own opponents.. maybe theres a great seek out there that I would definitely have clicked on if I could see it.. but now I cant..

breakerofwind
skakmadurinn wrote:

And "user bahivor" - So the rude guys on chess.com will not get a match?! That's so sad.

Maybe they can pair the rude guys with other rude guys.  Then everybody is happy.

bertmanxxx

Could there have been a more obscure way to communicate a deep change to the way the site works?  I like to play 10 minute games and try to play with slightly stronger players than me. Why this should make me have to wait significantly for games is beyond my understanding.

jasaniyah

thanks for the information messege you sometime next week thanks teacher once again