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What is the main idea behind the Petroff defense for black?

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Forgiven

This gives some info, not sure if it will help : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrov's_Defence

C_H_E_S_STAR

thanks forgiven!

KillaBeez

Isn't the idea to create a somewhat symmetrical and drawish position to acheive a draw with the Black pieces?

Forgiven
Looking at this, I have inadvertently done this not knowing what it was and that it is an opening. Only one time did we both capture pawns, but because white goes first I remember something happened to me and I decided not to pursue that in future games.
C_H_E_S_STAR

i KillaBeez! I dont look for draw, i want to Win! ;)

KillaBeez

Then you shouldn't play the Petroff.  If you want a win, play the Sicilian or an e5 opening that actually gives you winning chances.

C_H_E_S_STAR

so why grandmasters win with petroff and use it often?

Natalia_Pogonina
C_H_E_S_STAR wrote:

so why grandmasters win with petroff and use it often?


Because the Petroff often requires outstanding endgame technique. Therefore, less experienced players can easily be outplayed by skillful grandmasters even if their position is slightly better. Smile

C_H_E_S_STAR

Thanks for your comment Natalia! ..so what opening should i use for great winnig chance if i play black against e4?

RobertPaulson13
C_H_E_S_STAR wrote:

Thanks for your comment Natalia! ..so what opening should i use for great winnig chance if i play black against e4?


 C5 i play pettrof and its very usefull vs big rtg players i beat a 1900 using it

nuclearturkey
KillaBeez wrote:

Then you shouldn't play the Petroff.  If you want a win, play the Sicilian or an e5 opening that actually gives you winning chances.


The Petroff is actually considered to be a very sharp opening if played with the intent of producing sharp positions. Most amateurs only think it's drawish because it's often used as a drawing weapon at 2700+ level...

nqi

Article just up on the Petrov

VLaurenT

I think black's basic idea is the Petroff defence is to trade both central e-pawns, and thus makes it easier to trade heavy pieces and defuse any kingside attack by white.

Installing a strong central Knight on e4 is another major idea, as far as I understand.

philidorposition
nuclearturkey wrote:
KillaBeez wrote:

Then you shouldn't play the Petroff.  If you want a win, play the Sicilian or an e5 opening that actually gives you winning chances.


The Petroff is actually considered to be a very sharp opening if played with the intent of producing sharp positions. Most amateurs only think it's drawish because it's often used as a drawing weapon at 2700+ level...


 I was just about to say that. Petroff's drawish reputation doesn't come from the actual positions occuring on the board, but from the fact that they have been analyzed to death by the elite.

Petroff lines, on the contrary to their reputation, look completely ming boggling to me, even the sicilian "makes more sense" to my patzerish eyes sometimes. I think OTB you'd have excellent chances of winning right out of the opening if you put in a lot of work into it. On CC, I'm not so sure about that, but it's my main weapon against e5 here anyway.

C_H_E_S_STAR

Thanks!

Atos

Also check out the article by Arun and Magesh:

http://www.chess.com/article/view/the-petroff-defense-by-gm-arun-and-gm-magesh

I agree with their conclusion: "If white decides to play for a draw, then Petroff may not be a good opening to try to win, but when White is playing for an advantage, the Petroff has always been a useful weapon as the defensive ideas are always combined with some active ideas when given a chance."

C_H_E_S_STAR

Thanks Atos!

Ricardo_Morro

The main idea of the Petroff is to aggressively respond to White's attack on the king pawn by a counterattack on his rather than by passively defending one's own.

Sceadungen
C_H_E_S_STAR wrote:

Hi, i wanna know if someone know what is the main idea behind the Petroff defense for the black?  I search it in many books but i never find...

Please help me ;)

To bore your opponent and all of the Chess World thus getting a draw and an early bus ride home. All at minimum effort