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Powerful continuation-----> Initiative Test


  • 18 months ago · Quote · #1

    InfiniteFlash

    The question relating to the OP, is stated below in the first bold statement.
     

     

    At the end of the main line, white played the very logical g3, because black threatened f4 with a huge bind on white's center.

    The problem is, g3 weakens black's kingside, and really devastates the masses of white's other pieces in the apocalypse soon to come.


     

    Can you determine why 15.g3 is not a good move for white?


    Of course, I completely know the best way to go about this position Wink


     

    I will post variations and the ideas behind the move here in the OP, as soon as someone recommends and supports their idea behind it. Some analysis will be required for me to accept your answer.


    Please post your answers, if possible, in WHITE font.

    For example, left click+hold+and drag on the statement below, you will see what i mean.

    Please share your questions in the comments.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #2

    shoopi

    made you look :)

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #3

    shoopi

    In all seriousness though, 15. g3 seems to be quite inviting to 15... f4, threatening to sacrifice an exchange and create many threats on white's position. I haven't analysed it too deeply, though.



  • 18 months ago · Quote · #4

    InfiniteFlash

    Can you explain why you gave 15...f4, and 16...Rxf4 the dubious mark(?!)?

    (For the sake of explanation for anyone that wants to read this thread, and it's comments that is.)

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #5

    shoopi

    Because I couldn't confirm that the sacrifice is good for black, even though it looks really promising. Knowing your agressive style though, I have a strong feeling it's exactly the kind of move you would play :)

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #6

    InfiniteFlash

    shoopi wrote:

    Because I couldn't confirm that the sacrifice is good for black, even though it looks really promising. Knowing your agressive style though, I have a strong feeling it's exactly the kind of move you would play :)

    And indeed, in the live chess game this happened on the server, I did indeed play 15...f4, but is this the best black has? Like I said, lots of painful analysis needed :P

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #7

    ClavierCavalier

    I think Rando just wants other people to do the work for him :-p.  Seriously, though, I've been waiting for a couple of days to see this.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #8

    InfiniteFlash

    I have waited a couple days too! I am pretty disappointed in the chess.com public: guess it was too hard for them! I will post the solution in 24 hours T_T

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #9

    ClavierCavalier

    It says your last comment was 5 days ago.  Where is that solution?

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #10

    InfiniteFlash

    I have died, and gone missing. 

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #11

    ClavierCavalier

    Well, I'll post flyers asking for your were abouts.  I'll start with funeral homes.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #12

    InfiniteFlash

    I am a zombie.

    Since no one except shepi or CC gave two craps, here is the solution.


    Let me show you some of the basic ideas of black's position. Sorry for the lack of annotations guys, my computer failed on me, disconnected and much of my PGN was lost, and i didnt feel like typing all of the words again Yell


    and this final position, its obvious black has a serious initiative, and will be charged with battery and assualt on the black king.

    Qxh4 looks simplest.

     

    SORRY FOR THE FORMATTING, MY COMPUTER IS SUCKING MAJOR DONKEY TAIL RIGHT NOW!!!

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #13

    InfiniteFlash

    coneheadzombie wrote:

    I can't read your solution for some reason, and I'm afraid if I try to post a diagram it will fail. So I'll write the moves out.

    f4!? Bxf4 Rxf4!? gxf4 Qxf4 Qc1 and the position is very unclear. Black could try ...Bb8 at some point with a large initiative, but you have to remember White is the exchange up and could possibly defend and win.

    i fixed it...the formatting sucks for some reason, dont ask, just deal with it Yell. I am a fan of Qf7-Qh5 stuff, so many annoying tactics with Nxf2 and Nxd4 lingering. White has a long game ahead of him, maybe he can draw with perfect play, but even so, the ending resulting may be highly unpleasant.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #14

    InfiniteFlash

    coneheadzombie wrote:

    k thanks, I can read it now

    its a great position to study, because you can find a move to your liking after Qc1, many queen retreats, all of them are good, black has a tough defense ahead. 


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