anyway great game :)

I read on Friday that caffeine is no longer on the FIDE banned substances list. However, I did not get that from a FIDE source.

Obviously you've never done nor known anyone who has done this stuff.  If a person on meth wants to play me at chess then BRING IT.  Sure you're awake and alert but your brain goes a million miles an hour.  Its not a good thing.

So I've heard....

To everyone saying drugs wouldn't help a chess player you are wrong, for instance meth.

"An addiction to methamphetamine typically occurs when a person begins to use the drug as a stimulant, because of its enhancing effects on pleasure and sex, alertness and ability to concentrate. Over time, however, the effectiveness decreases, and users find that they need to take higher doses to get the same results"

The Germans in WWII actually gave meth to their pilots and tank operators because it would allow them to stay awake extremely extended periods of time with full concentration and without the need to eat.

"The psychological effects of methamphetamine include, euphoria, dysphoria, increased attention, increased alertness, excessive talking, rapid speech, irritability, nervousness,anxiety, paranoia, delusions of grandeur, panic, aggressive and sometimes violent behavior, severe depression, suicidal tendencies, hyperactivity and excitability, increased sense of well-being, and emotional lability. Occasionally excessive and/or chronic use of methamphetamine can lead to amphetamine psychosis, with side effects such ashallucinations, paranoia, delusions, and thought disorder."

Now there are a lot of downsides to using this drug especially when within a year it no longer does anything to make you better and you are a complete wreck, but it can improve a lot of thigns even in training.  Any desperate chess player might rationalize to themselves, well only this once... it actually manages to get a lot of University Students this way as well during exam periods!

So I believe Drug testing should be an important part of the Chess world!

 AMcHarg I agree.. Thats the point..chess cannot be compared with other muscular sports of Olympics.. I even doubt whether any brain related drugs are on their list of banned drugs.. sorry.. my knowledge is limited about these details but I support chess and believe it is (chess game) not easily won by drugs consumers..

Chess as a mental sport.....but is best than others....then.....is only.....olimpic chess. The players have a lot of mental force ....but I can`t think that submit a drug testing......FIDE has the last word.

NM GreenLaser got it bang on target...

This is all a money grab, mates. Chess wants into the olympics to make more $. The IOC wants ALL participants to undergo drug testing (for substances that have dubious to none performance enhancing effects, like Viagra and THC).

I accept that doping in traditional sports mars the competition and turns it into fraud. But there's no peer reviewed, double blind tests that have shown that drugs enhance mental acuity.

Note I'm not saying someone with a disease will not play better under the correct medication. This is already covered in the WADA code, under a Therapeutic Use Exemption that allows (for example) asthmatics to use an inhales, or diabetics to use insulin. But I do hope that FIDE regains some sanity and stops trying to be an olympic "sport", and instead starts organizing proper world-championship cycles that don't end up with second tier GM (no offense, but Kasimdzhanov is not on par with Anand, Kasparov, or Kramnik) taking the crown.

Olympic Games are disgrace for "Cogito ergo sum" kind of man. I think chess should not be part of it.

Just to make it absolutely clear - no-one is suggesting that Ivanchuk took drugs! He was just very upset at losing such an important game and stormed out without taking the test.

To everyone saying drugs wouldn't help a chess player you are wrong, for instance meth.

"An addiction to methamphetamine typically occurs when a person begins to use the drug as a stimulant, because of its enhancing effects on pleasure and sex, alertness and ability to concentrate. Over time, however, the effectiveness decreases, and users find that they need to take higher doses to get the same results"

The Germans in WWII actually gave meth to their pilots and tank operators because it would allow them to stay awake extremely extended periods of time with full concentration and without the need to eat.

"The psychological effects of methamphetamine include, euphoria, dysphoria, increased attention, increased alertness, excessive talking, rapid speech, irritability, nervousness, anxiety, paranoia, delusions of grandeur, panic, aggressive and sometimes violent behavior, severe depression, suicidal tendencies, hyperactivity and excitability, increased sense of well-being, and emotional lability. Occasionally excessive and/or chronic use of methamphetamine can lead to amphetamine psychosis, with side effects such as hallucinations, paranoia, delusions, and thought disorder."

Now there are a lot of downsides to using this drug especially when within a year it no longer does anything to make you better and you are a complete wreck, but it can improve a lot of thigns even in training.  Any desperate chess player might rationalize to themselves, well only this once... it actually manages to get a lot of University Students this way as well during exam periods!

So I believe Drug testing should be an important part of the Chess world!

Look, Chess is not a sport. Whatever next, Olympic Sudoku? Chess has it's own accolades and it's players do not need to be subjected to the bureaucracy and bu11s%1t of the Olympics.

Johnnybegood

I dont see a defense against that either. im so baffled by this resignation its not even funny.

FIDE wouldn't dare take the US Bronze away.. if anything award a second Bronze to the 4th team.  It would be a bit embarrasing for all the players that went up and accepted their awards, all the press congratulating US on the Bronze win, the professional chess media and enthusiast sites, and all others involved.

If someone wants to play me while they're on drugs then BRING IT.  It only works out for me in the long run.

Fide should ban use of computers to the official players because they might use the computers for preparation, unfair advantage at all. :S''+'=%IU=%U%_^'

What a silly thing if he want then he can use anything, i would punch the president of the fide if they asked me the same thing (although i didn't use even vitamins:!)

kaankara wrote "S''+'=%IU=%U%_^'" then he might be using drug while connected to chess.com lets ban him :p

I think that chess is sport and should be allowed in the olypics, although this situation has somwhat made a mess of things, the medal situation should remain how they are so the US should get the bronze, even though anouther team would be put 3rd if the points are dispossed of...all scores should remain for all teams that played them and should of only been a problem if the team in question came in medel position, which they didnt.

as for chess being a sport its true a sport is somthing that is physical so running ect, but although chess doesnt really "move" or physcial it does use a part of your body the brain, so at the end of the day running uses your legs, chess uses your brain both are body parts both are sports that require dedication to be good at end of, fine that means eventhing could be a sport but I say only things that people see as competitive where there can be winners and losers is a sport.

It is really a sad incident.

Obviously this is madness. But the most pressing question for me at present is this - where the heck do I get a set like the one pictured here with Chucky? I'm so desperate to get hold of a set like this and have been for years. I just can't find one anywhere.

Chess is a game, not a sport. Sport necessarily requires physical activity, the moving of chess pieces does not constitute this. However, chess is more skillful than many olympic games as chess is always 100% skill and 0% luck. There are many Olympic games where luck is involved in the outcome e.g referees decisions, lane draw, order of play, to mention a few.

As a fan of the team Ukraine,

I can say that CHUCK was always an impulsive fellow.

But there were many GM in the chess history with unpredictable behaviour.

Except that there was no stupid "RANDOM" doping test behind FIDE's dream of making this GAME as a sport for Olympic Games.

Let’s be honest, there is not so much of a sport in the chess except may be words of "lost" and  "won".  The chess is more a brain game.  And those, who play too much of the brain games have a delusional sense of reality.  Let's do not blame this fellow for what he did, let's see him playing more. He is no dope guy. He is just chess-crazy fellow; just one of the army of such...

Moving the kings could be waiting moves, they are both satisfied with the situation and wants to see what the opponent will do next ?

What's with the dancing Kings routine? I think perhaps they are both on drugs...... maybe I just understand less about chess that I thought I did.