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MatDenoncourt is correct. The Java play key position vs computer here on chess.com incorrectly gives a draw on certain moves when it goes down to King vs King + Rook.
GabrieleMiceli , your solution doesnt help, as the black king can still take the rook. Surely the simple Rf4 blocks any checks allowing the king to advance to f7 and promote the pawn
I've watched a lot of videos here and I think this series is the best on the entire website for tournament players.
King Stig is right :) First white must check with Re6+, black king moves and Then Rg5 winning!
At 8:09 : And how do you respond to Rxg7? (with the plan Kxg7 Kxe5) You just blundered the draw! ;)
Holes in my knowledge?! I've been a member for a while, My OTB rating had declined. So I started from the beginning of " study plans". There I found King and pawn knowledge, and rook and pawn knowledge. That I thought I knew?! I will master these subjects! Thanks! I believe this will help me become a expert/master. Rated 1600+, was almost 1900?! Thanks again IM Rensch!
thanks IM Rensch. Helped me a lot
Another interesting variant (at least to me, but I share it anyway ) is if White has the rook on the h-file, in which case their king is protected from checks:
The final rook capture seems to be a common pattern in this type of endgame (occurs also in video 2, but there it's the defender who loses the rook)
To answer my own question below about ...Rh4 with the consequence that White cannot build the bridge anymore: White doesn't need the bridge, because Black's rook is too close (at least for the moment):
In the Philidor Defense: would it make sense to say that, as the defender, one should give check from the side whenever possible? I've played a bit against the computer, not following this potential rule, and the situation became the following (diagram removed in edit; see new one below). So, Black doesn't have to move the pawn and can enter the third rank with the king. Is this lost for White? EDIT: I guess it doesn't lead anywhere for Black:
Great video! I've learned a great deal already, and I am looking forward to the other ones. Has anyone thought about the position when it's Black to move and they play 1...Rh4? In my analysis, white cannot build the bridge anymore, and the game
turns into a queen-vs-rook endgame. Have I overlooked something?
Great video series, thanks!
Very instructive! Thank you, IM Rensch!:)
Note to anybody who came straight to this video knowing NOTHING about endgames like me, if you feel confused, I recommend watching Pawn Endgames series by IM Zierk first, and then come back to this IM Rensch's series. I watched the whole Pawn Endgames series twice and then came back to this series and now I'm able to follow what's being taught :) Good luck!
While testing this possition against a 3rd party computer, I came across a rather interesting move for black.
If after 1:Re2+,Kd6 2:Re4,Rg1 3:Kf7,Rf1+ 4:Kg6,Rg1+ 5:Kf6 ..,Kd5 is played, white's idea of Re7 will no longer work. In this case, white should instead play 6:Re5+, and after 6..,Kd4 white plays 7:Rg5 which is winning for white, because, after 7..,Rf1+ white has 8:Kg6
These videos are amazing and I find myself to be extremely tempted to jump too far ahead and watch video after video. By analysing these positions over the board against a strong (computer) opponent, you tend to run in to these kind of tricky positions, which amplifies the abillity to remember and master these techniques/positions.
These are so important to know
Watching the series for my second time....Great stuff!
Please be relevant, helpful & nice!
inspiresquare it is not a chess ingine it is the java play key positoin Vs computer link on this page. i have tryed it on many computer...
Mat.. it is not a draw.. any king v. king/rook played correctly is automatically winning. Get a new chess engine is all I can say.
by IM Daniel Rensch
The first video in FM Danny Rensch's introductory (and comprehensive) series on rook endgames. This first video presents concepts as well as the two most fundamental positions in the theory of rook endgames: the Lucena Position and the Philidor Defense.
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With numerous "scholastic chess accomplishments" to boast of, both as a player and a coach, Danny has been a "chess professional" since his early teens. He was ranked in the Top 10 for his age in the U.S. every year from the age of 12 - 21years old, and at one point he was the highest rated 19-year old in the country. He earned the IM title at age 23. A part owner and full time Staff Member for Chess.com LLC, Danny is our Vice President of Content and Professional Operations, managing the products and "team of contributors" you enjoy here, as well as for our scholastic extension site, ChessKid.com.
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