2020 Division 1 Forum

Somerset Wyvern over the line against Renfrewshire Rooks. The score is currently 11.5 - 2.5 in the 10 board match.

Challenge for May sent to Leinster from Yorks. https://www.chess.com/clubs/match_challenge/1891730

Challenge sent. Yorks v Sussex

https://www.chess.com/clubs/match_challenge/1914536

R2 Staffs vs Leinster

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/team-staffordshire/1080382

R3 Staffs vs Northern Knights

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/team-staffordshire/1091966

R4 Staffs vs Renfrewshire Rooks

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/team-staffordshire/1097974

R5 Staffs vs Somerset Wyvern

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/team-staffordshire/1103248

Yorkshire 25 Somerset 24 - 3 games to go. Tremendous match - congratulations to all !!

Yorks v Northern challenge sent. https://www.chess.com/clubs/match_challenge/1936074

July match still to start: Somerset v Hampshire

Challenge sent several days ago no response https://www.chess.com/clubs/match_challenge/1949300

Just to let you know I have just noticed that messi000 who plays for Leinster has been banned.  He has played in most of our matches this season.  I understand any points he will have won will be forfeited.

That sounds like an organiser's nightmare, John. If completed matches are reviewed, it turns Leinster's draw with Somerset Wyvern into a defeat. Over to you, Matt !! 

Yes the win will be awarded to Somerset as per the rules.  When the tables are updated this will be shown.

I will hope to update tables this AM

Out of interest Matt, how far back does the punishment go ? If a player is banned (and I'm not referring to this case) are his results in all current competitions reviewed, and what about  completed competitions ? Let me reiterate I am not enquiring with any particular claims in mind.

Only league results for the current season are reversed.   Any cup match results can only be altered if the result hasn’t already been declared.  

Looking at Richard's updated tables, I think this means the title is now up in the air between Leinster and Somerset, with everything riding on the last game in Somerset vs Gloucestershire.

Hi Matt, Sorry to put more work your way but could you explain how the title will be decided if we beat Gloucestershire and does an 11.5 -10.5 or 12-10 win make any difference ?

Thanks again for all your superb organisation. 

I think this is the relevant rule:

11. If teams have an equal number of points at the end of the season, then the following in order will be taken into account to determine finishing places: a) The match result(s) between tied teams, if a team has beaten all those teams they have tied with, they will finish above them in the league. b) The total number of games won minus the total number of games lost in the season, by each team. The team with the highest score will take the top position. c) The total number of timeouts in a season, the time with the least will finish top if points a and b can't separate the teams.

So my interpretation is that if you finish level on points with Leinster it will come down to the head-to-head record, which favours Somerset. Unless there's an exception or a rule I'm missing that Matt can correct me on?

Thanks AJ,

As we'll both be level with Yorkshire on 16 points, won't the H2H be equal (with each of us winning one and losing one). So Yorkshire and Somerset's points differences are very close and both are better than Leinster's.

I'm pleased to say this does reward the counties with the largest number of players in their teams.

Is there a reason why the charts show the percentages rather than the points difference ?

Excellent point, then my interpretation is not correct.

3 teams would be on 16 points, with each team having beaten 1 of the other 3. I think it would then come down to part b of the rule: 

b) The total number of games won minus the total number of games lost in the season, by each team. The team with the highest score will take the top position.

This is very close !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The charts make it appear that only our remaining game with Gloucestershire is important but we have three uncompleted games against Hampshire still in the mix which will affect our points difference. Yorkshire may also have some unfinished games. I'm going to shut up now and leave it to the folk in charge !!