A compendium of suggested 4PC changes

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This is just a compendium of changes that have been suggested by anyone. So if anyone who works on chess.com ever decided to make changes there would be a long list of them-

ok it's not really a compendium yet because I only have a few other peoples pieces   

but PLEASE IF YOU HAVE ANY Possible  pieces or setting comment them here- this is not a list of good settings of pieces just possible setting or pieces 

{New pieces}

(for all new pieces names are all suggestions)[and reasons for name are in brackets]

- archer(an Afli that skips two spaces diagonally)[because it shoots an arrow?]

- crossbowman (a Dubbaba that skips two spaces)[because an afli moves kind of like a bishop and in medical times the church (bishops included) outlawed crossbows. And because medival archers used these to defend castles (aka rooks)] 

- Arbalest (archer and crossbowman combined) [cause an arbalest was a better type of crossbow]

- wazir rider - can make as many wazir moves as it wants but it can turn.  

-Tunnels- stationery pieces that are kind of like a wall but you can move your piece onto it and it comes out on top of another tunnel. 

{additions to peices}

- Grasshopper rider (you know what this would be)

- wildebeest rider (you know what this would be also)

-archer crossbowman and arbalest riders? (you know what this would be too)

- NO brakes topping {maby like a little X  on top of the piece?} -makes is so that a piece with this (aka queen, bishop, knight rider, etc) could not stop and had to go the farthest it could, like until it hits a wall or captures.

 

 

{new settings} 

- Possible making a player a "zombie" he still gets to chose which piece he moves but he has to play by his zombie's constraints like if the scenario creator decided that yellow was a checker yellow would if possible have to check. AND you could also make a player immune - you would just make for example the other players have a lot more points to start with.

- what I said in this post fractional and adjusted points 

- A ability for the game designer to change the way pawns points (like he could make everyone's pawns go the same way

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This is a lot of stuff. Personally I feel adding even more fairy pieces will just be too much, people will be WAY too confused and will simply not play fairy pieces. Fairy piece variants already have the least play of all variants (besides, maybe, Arena of Legends, but even that has become less popular lately). 

Also, these are not all the changes (you call it a "compendium" but really just use it as a way to introduce the pieces you want added). 

What has also been suggested is to add a feature in the position editor that dictates which direction pawns move based on the board geometry, I feel this could greatly diversify and improve variants. 

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ok i can delete these

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didnt you read waht i said 

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i was just making some not very good suggestions 

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wait fary pieces are the least played for all variants?? I only  play varient with thoes

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TheChessDude991 wrote:

(besides, maybe, Arena of Legends, but even that has become less popular lately). 

It is probably unpopular because BoxJellyFish stopped playing it and he was responsible for a lot of its popularity. XD

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I don't think more pieces will hurt. It's more that many games have way too many pieces. Even if we had 100 fairy pieces, you can still just use one or two of them for your game, and it will be easy to learn.

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yea 

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@noahfavelo Most people these days can't even remember how 20 fairy pieces move, that's why it's not popular. Interesting piece designs (grasshopper rider would be super chaotic and weird though) but people are already too lazy to play the current ones.

@TheChessDude991, as far as I remember, no fairy piece variant has ever dropped below 10 games per 2 weeks, while ThroneWar Mini once had 0 games in 2 weeks. Arena of Legends was top 5 in variant popularity and probably is top 10 right now. In addition, fairy piece games actually have the most play if you count WOFs, since the majority of WOFs do include some fairy pieces. 

@gg7654:

This is a Jellyfish:

And this is a "JellyFish": see the difference?

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BoxJellyfishChess wrote:

@noahfavelo Most people these days can't even remember how 20 fairy pieces move, that's why it's not popular. Interesting piece designs (grasshopper rider would be super chaotic and weird though) but people are already too lazy to play the current ones.

@TheChessDude991, as far as I remember, no fairy piece variant has ever dropped below 10 games per 2 weeks, while ThroneWar Mini once had 0 games in 2 weeks. Arena of Legends was top 5 in variant popularity and probably is top 10 right now. In addition, fairy piece games actually have the most play if you count WOFs, since the majority of WOFs do include some fairy pieces. 

@gg7654:

This is a Jellyfish:

And this is a "JellyFish": see the difference?

And I thought I was the only one who couldn't remember how fairy pieces move.

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I remember when I first was playing 4pc there was someone who was going to trade his rook for my amazon and I was like "what's this piece it looks like a knight with a queen on it, if he wants to trade his rook for it he is welcome" happy.png

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More fairy pi

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Also a rule where you can create"holes"

The creator of the game could add a hole with a "tonnel" . when you fall into the hole you can walk in the tonnel. You can come back out of the tonnel by climbing trouh a hole.

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They should create holes in which if you put your piece in the hole you lose it

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but so how will people know if a hole is for losing pieces or for walking in the tunnel?

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qwertyPT wrote:

but so how will people know if a hole is for losing pieces or for walking in the tunnel?

Make the holes different colors

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good idea. Also, when you lose a piece, the points for it are shared for everyone else.

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but why would you want to go into a hole that will kill you _ maby if it has a 25% chance of killing you every move you stay there.....

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you will notice that i added tunnels..